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by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 10:25 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

I take a pragmatic view of recycling. It costs money and uses energy to recycle stuff.Some recycling* leads to degradation in our environment - people don't like to live near incinerators, and my streets are awash on a Wednesday (recycling day) and any school day (kids dropping litter) with plastic...
by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 7:40 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

You have a pretty narrow view of the benefits of recycling. http://www.yellow-woods.co.uk/paper-recycling-in-the-uk-facts-and-figures.html I take a pragmatic view of recycling. It costs money and uses energy to recycle stuff.Some recycling* leads to degradation in our environment - people don't lik...
by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 7:38 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

Emma Thompson does not have to fly around the world. In the end it is an individual decision to reduce the amount of flying one does. I haven't reduced this personally to zero, but most years I don't fly anywhere. I also agree with the proposal that population numbers are not irrelevant. Although I...
by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 7:30 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

Quite. The protestors give themselves a nice feeling of importance, while making people who suffer from their actions feel bad and angry. None of it will make any impact to the environment. Except covering Hyde Park in litter according to the photos circulating. If they wanted to make a difference ...
by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 4:32 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

The thread isn't about climate change, it's about the climate change protests. Mel Quite. The protestors give themselves a nice feeling of importance, while making people who suffer from their actions feel bad and angry. None of it will make any impact to the environment. Except covering Hyde Park ...
by melonfool
April 22nd, 2019, 9:01 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

You can disagree as much as you like, it's not my argument. I don't necessarily agree with them (I've not looked at any of the research), I'm telling you what THEIR argument is. As I said before, I don't even care if the human race is going to make itself extinct. The thread isn't about climate chan...
by melonfool
April 21st, 2019, 9:42 pm
Forum: Airport Lounge
Topic: Which Greek Island in June ....
Replies: 7
Views: 226

Re: Which Greek Island in June ....

I liked Evia:

https://www.greektravel.com/greekislands/evia/

This ^ site has other guides on it.

I'm off to Thesaloniki in June, not an island but looks lovely.

Mel
by melonfool
April 21st, 2019, 6:13 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

They are not trying to get individuals to change their behaviour. To complain that the people protesting are hypocrites because they do not live a totally carbon neutral life is to very much miss the point. The point is that we cannot live carbon neutral lives because of the way modern life is now d...
by melonfool
April 19th, 2019, 11:51 pm
Forum: High Yield Portfolios (HYP) - Practical
Topic: Beginners HYP 2019 Review and Next Purchase
Replies: 13
Views: 1000

Re: Beginners HYP 2019 Review and Next Purchase

I wasn't sure, hence the question. TopOfDaMornin said; "This is made up of £2,845 dividend currently in the HYP account and a further annual addition of £10,000." I read this to be existing divis accumulated in the HYP plus new money to the tune of £10k. Yes, it's the new (annual) £10k pl...
by melonfool
April 19th, 2019, 12:53 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

THEY DON'T CARE! How many times; they are not trying to make friends with or persuade the public. Yes, I get that they don't care about anyone else. That was kinda my point! That is exactly why their message is being rejected. Still missing the point most spectacularly. It's quite poetic really :) ...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 11:11 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

The meaning is obvious. Delay my commute or impede my travel, and then you have made an enemy, not a friend. THEY DON'T CARE! How many times; they are not trying to make friends with or persuade the public. Yes, I get that they don't care about anyone else. That was kinda my point! That is exactly ...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 11:09 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

It occurs to me that it is a special kind of narcissist that, against all evidence, thinks that someone protesting is trying to win their personal sympathy. A very special kind. I also don't agree with their cause (mainly because I don't care if the human race is going to become extinct through its ...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 11:02 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

Lootman wrote:
melonfool wrote:"Don't mess with me" - you're hilarious, do you do stand up?

The meaning is obvious. Delay my commute or impede my travel, and then you have made an enemy, not a friend.


THEY DON'T CARE!

How many times; they are not trying to make friends with or persuade the public.

Mel
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:43 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

they are not kids I do not care about their age. My point was that if they mess with me then they lose my sympathy. Are you suggesting that if a "white power" protester messed with you then you would suddenly adopt their views? Don't think so. If you want to convince me then engage me. Do...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:41 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

ER can be ignored. What worries me more is that the Green Party seem to be supporting them. The latter do require people to be converted to their cause, and I think them unwise to support direct action. I doubt ER can be ignored for long to be honest. It's a global movement. But I agree re the Gree...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:39 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

Remember that Global Warming became Climate Change when the temperature declined to follow Al Gore's J-curve. It's not many years ago when the worries were about the next Ice Age. Bad science and misguided politicians seem to go together. Fair points. And I do not fear a debate over the facts. I ju...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:38 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

You didn't Google, did you. Why argue about something when you don't even know what you're arguing against? Really odd.l It is not odd that I don't google something that someone tells me to. The point here is not about whether their arguments are reasonable, but rather about whether it helps their ...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:22 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

Yeah.

You didn't Google, did you.

Why argue about something when you don't even know what you're arguing against? Really odd.

Mel
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 8:13 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

They are not trying to turn people ON to their cause. Try using Google, you will find a large number of news articles in which they were interviewed and YouTube videos made by them and various news channels they have appeared on. Then you might get the gist of what they are trying to do and have a d...
by melonfool
April 18th, 2019, 6:51 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Climate Change Demo in London
Replies: 121
Views: 1868

Re: Climate Change Demo in London

I'm travelling to Heathrow tomorrow, though I'm not flying. If my journey is disrupted, I will no longer consider the Green Party, who support ER, as a valid political party who could have a chance of getting my vote. They must be quaking in their boots. Quaking. Anyway - list of protests here, I c...

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