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by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 10:00 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May to accept checks between GB and NI
Replies: 168
Views: 1752

Re: May to accept checks between GB and NI

How about the referendum to join the European Common Market in 1974? Or were people smarter then than now? I'm afraid you're coming preciously close to claiming that people who disagree with you are "ill informed". Anybody who thinks we had a referendum to join the ECM in 1974 is ill info...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 9:58 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

BobbyD wrote:I don't think they are going to get the chance to use it in an election...


Having said that May has just ruled out an election prior to Brexit, so maybe will get one after all...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ore-brexit
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 9:56 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

Since the Labour party membership is now almost entirely comprised of extreme left wing socialists (+ a few Conservatives incentivised to keep Corbyn as Labour leader), I'm not sure a vote by them signifies anything shared by the more traditional Labour voters. It's my view that Corbyn/McDonnel et ...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 9:18 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

Since the Labour party membership is now almost entirely comprised of extreme left wing socialists (+ a few Conservatives incentivised to keep Corbyn as Labour leader), I'm not sure a vote by them signifies anything shared by the more traditional Labour voters. It's my view that Corbyn/McDonnel et ...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 6:08 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

Labour delegates vote overwhelmingly in favour of Brexit motion backing second referendum as option The Brexit composite motion has been passed overwhelmingly on a show of hands. Only a handful of people voted against. - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/sep/25/labour-conference-b...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 5:27 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May to accept checks between GB and NI
Replies: 168
Views: 1752

Re: May to accept checks between GB and NI

Give me an example in the past when so much was offered to so many ill-informed? How about the referendum to join the European Common Market in 1974? Or were people smarter then than now? I'm afraid you're coming preciously close to claiming that people who disagree with you are "ill informed&...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 12:55 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Business Reality verses Project Fear
Replies: 21
Views: 514

Re: Business Reality verses Project Fear

You are literally leaving the country for Brexit...

Given the chance to be in your country during its liberation from decades of subservience you've chosen to flee the creaky wreck.
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 12:45 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

Anyone proposing to vote Labour on the basis that he'd stop Brexit is deluding themselves... ...it's actually what they did at the last election, literally. The number of times I was told that Starmer knows what he is doing, nudge, nudge, wink, wink... But the Labour membership, 8% of whom a recent...
by BobbyD
September 25th, 2018, 12:34 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May to accept checks between GB and NI
Replies: 168
Views: 1752

Re: May to accept checks between GB and NI

I think she's doing better than anyone else could do given the cards she's been dealt. Literally her only achievement so far is to sit on the throne for two years frittering away time coming up with a plan which is unacceptable to the EU, Remainers and Brexiteers. It's difficult to see how anybody ...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 9:25 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Business Reality verses Project Fear
Replies: 21
Views: 514

Re: Business Reality verses Project Fear

Without knowing or having read the above releases, I put my money where my mouth is today, and booked a holiday, leaving in late March and flying back the day after we leave. I am confident I'll be back without disruption So if the Manure hits the fan you will be safely ensconced in foreign, There'...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 9:24 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May to accept checks between GB and NI
Replies: 168
Views: 1752

Re: May to accept checks between GB and NI

The second option would be a basic free trade agreement for Great Britain that would introduce checks at the Great Britain/EU border. But even worse, Northern Ireland would effectively remain in the Customs Union and parts of the Single Market, permanently separated economically from the rest of th...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 5:09 pm
Forum: Macro and Global Topics
Topic: Musk endeavours
Replies: 921
Views: 29452

Re: Musk endeavours

BobbyDCommunism is not the only form of non-open government. A lack of openness is not the only requirement to be Communist. Facist governments of the 30's and 40's for example were neither open nor Communist. The Chinese government is totalitarian, it is not bent on the eradication of money and pr...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 4:54 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: More no deal Brexit consequences and a date for Blue Passports
Replies: 65
Views: 1114

Re: More no deal Brexit consequences and a date for Blue Passports

More project fear... If the UK leaves the EU in March 2019 with no agreement in place, UK and EU licensed airlines would lose the automatic right to operate air services between the UK and the EU without seeking advance permission. - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/flights-to-and-from-the...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 2:42 pm
Forum: Macro and Global Topics
Topic: Musk endeavours
Replies: 921
Views: 29452

Re: Musk endeavours

Wikipedia lists China as a current communist state: Well it must be true if an online webpage which can be edited by literally anybody on the planet with unrestricted access to the internet says so... But if that's your rabbit hole of choice follow it all the way... A Communist state (sometimes ref...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 2:33 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

Corbyn would back Labour membership call for second referendum Though he won't actually say on what. Will it be brexit deal vs brexit no-deal, or brexit deal vs remain. His party are already spreading obfuscation on that. Indeed, Corbyn himself only said he supported a "further vote", tho...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 2:27 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum
Replies: 24
Views: 411

Re: Corbyn to accept Party's will on 2nd referendum

But Corbyn (or more likely McDonnell) doesn't want to keep Labour moderates in Parliament, and don't want to be in the EU (for completely different reasons from the Tory right, to do with pay and workers' rights: I think they are utterly mistaken on this score). They don't want to keep them in Parl...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 12:13 pm
Forum: Macro and Global Topics
Topic: Musk endeavours
Replies: 921
Views: 29452

Re: Musk endeavours

Wikipedia lists China as a current communist state: Well it must be true if an online webpage which can be edited by literally anybody on the planet with unrestricted access to the internet says so... But if that's your rabbit hole of choice follow it all the way... A Communist state (sometimes ref...
by BobbyD
September 24th, 2018, 11:53 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Well Salzburg seemed to go well ...
Replies: 106
Views: 1355

Re: Well Salzburg seemed to go well ...

We should walk away. Good Friday Agreement is being used as a straitjacket to chain UK to the EU's will. "The only way is our way". Total obedience to our rules. Well, there have always been different duty levels for petrol, fags, booze... crossing the border, even under GFA. And the powe...
by BobbyD
September 23rd, 2018, 10:40 pm
Forum: Macro and Global Topics
Topic: Musk endeavours
Replies: 921
Views: 29452

Re: Musk endeavours

If this is what you believe you have not studied China. It is a strongly communist State, a single party ruling everything, there is no democracy & any citizen falling out of line is reported by the communist officials paid to watch for trouble & then subject to whatever punishment the part...
by BobbyD
September 23rd, 2018, 10:24 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May to accept checks between GB and NI
Replies: 168
Views: 1752

Re: May to accept checks between GB and NI

Lootman wrote:
BobbyD wrote:I predicted no deal was possible myself

Glad we agree. I am comfortable with that outcome.


I didn't predict we would leave.

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