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by Charlottesquare
September 18th, 2019, 9:41 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

Even if Johnson came up with an as yet unimagined replacement for the backstop that was perfect I see no incentive for the EU to agree it if they believe the Benn bill is legally watertight. If they agree to a deal that may be acceptable to Johnson there is a risk the UK may take it. Surely they mu...
by Charlottesquare
September 16th, 2019, 5:21 pm
Forum: Family Matters
Topic: tax avoidance for grandchildren
Replies: 5
Views: 207

Re: tax avoidance for grandchildren

With the possibility of a Labour/LibDem government introducing a Gift Tax we'd like to gift some cash to our grandchildren before the next General Election. Unfortunately the little blighters haven't had the decency to be born yet. What legitimate action can we best take? Do you have at least one o...
by Charlottesquare
September 13th, 2019, 10:32 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

Celts aren’t exactly banished to anywhere! I think our fellow poster is using indigenous as a synonym for white. Indigenous is not a synonym for white in my thesaurus, which one do you use? 8-) Its a rough life being indigenous, there you are, proud to be a Pict and these damn Scots turn up and rui...
by Charlottesquare
September 13th, 2019, 10:24 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Brexit and Brexit
Replies: 12
Views: 506

Re: Brexit and Brexit

With apologies to Mr Charles Dickens for misappropriating his work. Brexit and Brexit drones on. This scarecrow of a suit has, over the course of time, become so complicated, that no man alive knows what it means. The parties to it understand it least; but it has been observed that no two Members o...
by Charlottesquare
September 12th, 2019, 3:54 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Prorogation judged unlawful
Replies: 62
Views: 1090

Re: Prorogation judged unlawful

The SNP have far too much influence on UK politics. If we had proportional representation they would be a nonentity. I must admit however that the arrogant Ian Blackford, leader of the SNP in Westminster is a priceless asset to Brexit cause. Owen. What on earth do you think the SNP's election in Sc...
by Charlottesquare
September 12th, 2019, 3:46 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

Boris has now revived his plan for a bridge between Scotland and Northern Ireland asking officials to produce a paper on the idea. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2019/sep/12/brexit-latest-news-operation-yellowhammer-claims-government-has-taken-considerable-steps-to-avert-no-deal-dan...
by Charlottesquare
September 11th, 2019, 9:09 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Prorogation judged unlawful
Replies: 62
Views: 1090

Re: Prorogation judged unlawful

Stop being obtuse. The ERG didn't vote to postpone or block Brexit, (or to postpone Brexit or take no deal off the table because they really wanted to block it), as those I referred to did. Of course they did. They voted against May's deal. Had it passed, the UK would be out of the EU now. As I sai...
by Charlottesquare
September 11th, 2019, 9:06 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Prorogation judged unlawful
Replies: 62
Views: 1090

Re: Prorogation judged unlawful

From a political point of view I think that the SNP are overplaying their hand. Voters in the rest of the UK will resent their arrogant assumption that they control the Country. After all, the Scottish population is only a very small part of the UK population as a whole, and the views of a SNP bias...
by Charlottesquare
September 11th, 2019, 5:57 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Prorogation judged unlawful
Replies: 62
Views: 1090

Re: Prorogation judged unlawful

What mystifies me is that an English court ruled on a (to me) very similar issue in the opposite direction. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/06/boris-johnson-prorogation-of-parliament-is-lawful-high-court-rules So are our judges more corrupt than Scots ones? Are Scots judges cleverer o...
by Charlottesquare
September 7th, 2019, 11:13 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Expiration of 2016 referendum advisory direction
Replies: 23
Views: 642

Re: Expiration of 2016 referendum advisory direction

Well, clearly there isn't an infinite period for which a referendum's instruction remains valid (otherwise the 1975 instruction would still prevail). So at some point it's past its sell-by date. Maybe it's the 5 years of the FTPA? So 23 June 2021? But I don't think it will be that long, personally....
by Charlottesquare
September 7th, 2019, 3:49 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Tories looking at breaking convention and standing candidate against Speaker
Replies: 51
Views: 1163

Re: Tories looking at breaking convention and standing candidate against Speaker

John Bercow's behaviour during his tenure as Speaker has at least one advantage: almost anyone who follows him will be seen as more impartial. I wouldn't count on it, as annoying and in love with his own voice and 'wit' as he is Bercow is still less partisan and more competent than his predecessor ...
by Charlottesquare
September 7th, 2019, 3:42 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

Your point makes no sense. The gun to our head is the threat of no deal. So no, after no deal we wouldn’t have a gun held to our head. Instead we’d have a gaping hole in our head with bits of brain and blood on the floor. Prices will be up, fresh produce will be less readily available, the French w...
by Charlottesquare
September 7th, 2019, 3:32 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Tories looking at breaking convention and standing candidate against Speaker
Replies: 51
Views: 1163

Re: Tories looking at breaking convention and standing candidate against Speaker

If a Conservative MP stands in Buckingham, it would be interesting if Mr Bercow stood as an independent. I can see the Tory vote split three ways, some off to the Brexit Party, some loyalty to John Bercow and some continuing to vote Conservative. When he last stood as a Conservative candidate (2010...
by Charlottesquare
September 6th, 2019, 10:26 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

So... Boris accuses David Cameron of being a “girly swot” in his handwritten note about proroguing Parliament. https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-branded-david-cameron-girly-swot-leaked-document-reveals-11803807 Crumbs! The mind boggles. He’s even less mature and less suited to the office to ...
by Charlottesquare
September 6th, 2019, 10:22 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

Cripes, I'm finally speaking to someone possibly more cynical than myself! Though I think you make a good point. BobbyD, sorry for brevity I've not quoted all the post: Seems to (at least in my opinion) suggest that the tabloids are merely perpetuating a narrative. Because, of course, that's the on...
by Charlottesquare
September 5th, 2019, 7:38 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

I would think the EU would work reasonably quickly as soon as the 39 bn is paid and the backstop has been legislated for. I think they will wait until the cheque clears as not much trust around these days re the current government. What would be the point in talking to the current government? Even ...
by Charlottesquare
September 5th, 2019, 7:35 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

The form of Brexit on offer will make them poorer, give them and their children lesser life opportunities, and generally make life more wretched. Miserable, resentful people are far easier to manipulate than successful people in charge of their own destinies. It will be as child's play to frame it ...
by Charlottesquare
September 5th, 2019, 7:23 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

johnhemming wrote:I would think the EU would work reasonably quickly as soon as the 39 bn is paid and the backstop has been legislated for.


I think they will wait until the cheque clears as not much trust around these days re the current government.
by Charlottesquare
September 5th, 2019, 7:16 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

It was less than 10% of Tory MPs. About 2/3 of Labour MPs detest Corbyn. No contest. But let me ask you this. Who would you like to see as the next PM? Anyone but Boris. You say that, but have you looked at his Cabinet? Priti Patel? Liz Truss? Gove? JRM!!!? Among his many faults, Boris appears to b...
by Charlottesquare
September 5th, 2019, 3:42 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?
Replies: 1042
Views: 20611

Re: Boris Johnson PM - how it's going?

I see nothing unreasonable in their requiring to preserve intact what they consider valuable. Indeed Charlottesquare, and why do people think of the EU as inflexible for following their own rules, but we are never described as such for being unbending on our own rules? It cuts both ways. Personally...

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