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by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 10:09 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

Initially in the short term Yes there could be a reduction. The barriers can easily be overcome by other factors such as price. While there could be tariffs added immediately I don't believe there will be a sudden change in the process. There are many examples where exceptions have already been mad...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 9:58 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

The problem with "no deal" is that some businesses shut down overnight and others shut down more slowly. Getting investment to recreate those businesses would be difficult. For the SME, in my professional experience, it is often a slow lingering death. The owner having often invested his ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 9:45 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

1. Do you believe barriers and impediments to trade, at least initially, reduce trade? Initially in the short term Yes there could be a reduction. The barriers can easily be overcome by other factors such as price. 2. Do you believe a sudden change in the process is worse than a slow change? While ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 8:57 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

In my darker thoughts I sometimes believe I would like to do a deal with the EU that gives us a try before you buy transition, say No Deal on 29th March, a two year trial and then a second referendum scheduled to ratify or rescind, it would certainly sort out the argument one way or the other. I do...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 8:55 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

So the conclusion here is that remainers will allow economic terrorists to make up forecasts aka lie, if it suits their view. History will judge you and them, and it won't be positively. By definition all economic forecasts are made up, the word forecast being the clue. Now if you mean used flawed ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 8:50 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

So the conclusion here is that remainers will allow economic terrorists to make up forecasts aka lie, if it suits their view. History will judge you and them, and it won't be positively. By definition all economic forecasts are made up, the word forecast being the clue. Now if you mean used flawed ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 8:14 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Would No-Deal be really that bad?
Replies: 139
Views: 2284

Re: Would No-Deal be really that bad?

So the conclusion here is that remainers will allow economic terrorists to make up forecasts aka lie, if it suits their view. History will judge you and them, and it won't be positively. By definition all economic forecasts are made up, the word forecast being the clue. Now if you mean used flawed ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 5:13 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: BREXIT
Replies: 487
Views: 9726

Re: BREXIT

Really ? Of the top of my head Grenfell Tower Dementia tax Grammar school policy Windrush scandal Universal Credit NHS crisis 1 and 4 pre-date May's reign 2 is a negative characterisation What's wrong with 3? 6 is a myth and a NHS crisis is structural and inevitable because its principle is flawed ...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 2:06 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: General Election???????
Replies: 42
Views: 566

Re: General Election???????

Labour might be in a slightly better position Corbyn would likely say he could negotiate a better deal than May's and if push came to shove would then commit to a referendum to confirm his deal. Theresa May has pledged not to contest the next election, so it'll be another Conservative leader saying...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 1:59 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: BREXIT
Replies: 487
Views: 9726

Re: BREXIT

I find it amazing that Corbyn is no more popular than May, at the moment. Entirely his fault though. He just keeps either making the wrong decisions or not making any decisions at all. How does he expect anyone to have any sympathy for him, when he refuses to even have a private discussion with May...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 1:40 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: General Election???????
Replies: 42
Views: 566

Re: General Election???????

As the VoNC result was entirely on party lines, you could only force a GE if the DUP switch sides, and I reckon they love being kingmakers with all those lovely bribes, which they'd lose if the GE result swung at all. So it would need May to ask the people, and after 2017, and her phrase "stro...
by Charlottesquare
January 18th, 2019, 1:34 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: General Election???????
Replies: 42
Views: 566

General Election???????

Strange story my son found this evening re the Government asking Civil Service to look into snap election logistics. I find the idea really hard to believe as Conservatives look in no shape to handle an election (Labour , though, are hardly in great shape), but one might view Gove's H of C speech at...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 10:20 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

Ah, but you don't know what back-room deal might have been done. Not everything said and agreed is in Hansard. Either way it is money well spent if it keeps Labour out until at least 2022; They are likely only kept out if the talks with Jezza and the others bear some fruit, however bitter. She is b...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 10:12 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

Breaking news, emergency press brief on its way, likely to tell us type of biscuits JC ate. Waste of time- I rush downstairs to see what it is, the most pointless 10 pm briefing ever- obviously needed for tomorrow's papers. Maybe she should actually try properly talking with the other parties- agre...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 10:00 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

Breaking news, emergency press brief on its way, likely to tell us type of biscuits JC ate.
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 9:58 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

There might be a nation somewhere that does not have pay-to-play politics but I have no idea where that is. Corbyn evidently misjudged this vote as 19 is a pretty handsome majority. Evidently more than just the DUP thought Corbyn was a greater evil. Although Corbyn might secretly be relieved. To lo...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 9:11 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

I'd speculate that the Corbyn handout in return for the support of the SNP in the event of a Labour-led coalition would be something of the order of ten times that amount. Heck even the Welsh might get a nice little handout. Although with the Greens probably just a promise to not laugh at them migh...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 8:34 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

May wins by 19 votes. DUP turn up at number 10 tomorrow with a big lorry for the next Billion pound instalment they are due. I'd speculate that the Corbyn handout in return for the support of the SNP in the event of a Labour-led coalition would be something of the order of ten times that amount. He...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 8:21 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Where is the Queen in all this?
Replies: 9
Views: 325

Re: Where is the Queen in all this?

I'm still concerned that any form of Brexit will result in Scotland leaving the UK within ten years and leave the rump UK as a small state with little influence worldwide. This suggests you believe that the UK has some influence worldwide simply because Scotland is one of its member states?? Well T...
by Charlottesquare
January 16th, 2019, 8:16 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: No-confidence vote predictions
Replies: 35
Views: 464

Re: No-confidence vote predictions

ursaminortaur wrote:May wins by 19 votes.


DUP turn up at number 10 tomorrow with a big lorry for the next Billion pound instalment they are due.

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