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by ursaminortaur
February 16th, 2019, 11:07 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?
Replies: 78
Views: 969

Re: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?

They aren't. The UK once it leaves will not be paying into the ongoing EU budget - though it may pay for access to certain agencies- and hence won't pay any of its take from tariffs to the EU as part of an EU budget contribution. If the UK were to negotiate a Customs Union with the EU then it would...
by ursaminortaur
February 16th, 2019, 11:05 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?
Replies: 78
Views: 969

Re: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?

We are talking about once we've left the EU. If we stay in the customs union, we have taxation without any control of it, we will have no MEP's. How on earth Labour are supporting that baffles me. They aren't. No, they don't want to join/remain in the customs union but create some sort of new custo...
by ursaminortaur
February 16th, 2019, 8:47 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?
Replies: 78
Views: 969

Re: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?

You should complain to your MEP. We are talking about once we've left the EU. If we stay in the customs union, we have taxation without any control of it, we will have no MEP's. How on earth Labour are supporting that baffles me. They aren't. The UK once it leaves will not be paying into the ongoin...
by ursaminortaur
February 16th, 2019, 1:25 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Porsche passes on no deal tariff risk
Replies: 5
Views: 168

Re: Porsche passes on no deal tariff risk

A good boost for Lotus and British manufacturing jobs then, or am I meant to feel sorry for those poor zero hour contract food bank attending Porsche drivers now? British manufacturers export most of their production so they will be hit also. Have you been to Hethel? I have. Lotus make wonderful ca...
by ursaminortaur
February 15th, 2019, 10:16 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Trump
Replies: 111
Views: 5196

Re: Trump

The state of emergency tactic is very unpopular with Republican legislators because once the can of worms is opened they face a future where a Democratic President might try the same tactic to circumvent congressional approval for funding for, for example, the Green New Deal. Possibly. The Dems dil...
by ursaminortaur
February 15th, 2019, 5:33 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Trump
Replies: 111
Views: 5196

Re: Trump

Trump has announced that he is declaring a national emergency in order to get funds to build his wall. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/15/national-emergency-border-wall-trump-latest-news Donald Trump has defied fierce criticism to announce that he is using emergency powers to bypass Con...
by ursaminortaur
February 15th, 2019, 3:22 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: China cancels trade talks
Replies: 16
Views: 330

China cancels trade talks

China has cancelled trade talks with Philip Hammond following the speech from defence secretary Gavin Williamson where he had threatened to deploy a warship in the pacific. https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-china-talks/china-cancels-trade-talks-with-uk-in-protest-over-defence-secretarys-spee...
by ursaminortaur
February 14th, 2019, 6:55 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: May has lost her brexit motion
Replies: 7
Views: 258

May has lost her brexit motion

May has lost her vote on the main motion supporting her brexit approach https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/feb/14/brexit-latest-news-developments-debate-vote-amendments-fox-tells-potential-tory-rebels-they-will-undermine-pms-negotiation-if-she-loses-key-vote-politics-live?page=with:block...
by ursaminortaur
February 14th, 2019, 4:02 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Brexit Solution!
Replies: 11
Views: 271

Re: Brexit Solution!

Caveat - The chances of May adopting this approach are low. Here’s my suggestion for a solution to Mrs Mays Brexit problem. What May ‘should’ do (but probably won’t), is propose a General Election at end of June / early July, to effectively buy, Labour support for her deal, the Political Declaratio...
by ursaminortaur
February 14th, 2019, 12:17 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Brexit Solution!
Replies: 11
Views: 271

Re: Brexit Solution!

Caveat - The chances of May adopting this approach are low. Here’s my suggestion for a solution to Mrs Mays Brexit problem. What May ‘should’ do (but probably won’t), is propose a General Election at end of June / early July, to effectively buy, Labour support for her deal, the Political Declaratio...
by ursaminortaur
February 14th, 2019, 10:34 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?
Replies: 78
Views: 969

Re: Customs Union - isn't it good enough?

Is the Customs Union so bad that we can't live with it? Presumably the EU has deals with most countries or world blocks so could the UK realistically do any better? I'm a Leaver, so to your question: “Is the Customs Union so bad that we can't live with it?” I respond with: “It depends upon the stri...
by ursaminortaur
February 13th, 2019, 3:27 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: EU stance on NI backstop untenable
Replies: 20
Views: 529

Re: EU stance on NI backstop untenable

No party is advocating a hard border for three good reasons: The infrastructure and personnel could be targetted by terrorists. During the ‘troubles’ it was ineffective despite the desirability for security reasons - too many leaks. With ~275 crossings it would be impractical, prohibitively expensi...
by ursaminortaur
February 13th, 2019, 11:21 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: EU stance on NI backstop untenable
Replies: 20
Views: 529

Re: EU stance on NI backstop untenable

AFAIK the EU have never claimed that a hard border would have to be installed at the behest of the WTO. A hard border wouldn't have to be installed at the behest of the WTO, but if a border commensurate with the one experienced by other third parties isn't installed then those third parties will ha...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 9:04 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The Brexit Party
Replies: 40
Views: 1007

Re: The Brexit Party

But MPs do use their judgement after listening to debates and don't just follow party lines or vote as indicated by the party whips. For instance 118 MPs voted against May in the meaningful vote on the 15th January. You totally missed my point. I was objecting to the idea that MPs change their mind...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 8:43 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The Brexit Party
Replies: 40
Views: 1007

Re: The Brexit Party

Reasoned debates in parliament are no longer necessary since the constituents won't hear the debate - and even if they did on say parliamentary TV would have no means of informing their delegate that they have changed their mind. Since you mentioned it I think debates are mostly a waste of time, co...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 7:33 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The Brexit Party
Replies: 40
Views: 1007

Re: The Brexit Party

The voters. You work for me. I'm the boss :D Or are you saying that ego is more important than service? If I accept the principle that the MPs do as instructed then why should it be you whose instructions they take rather than me? It's not any one person, obviously. It is the majority of the voters...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 7:02 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The EU is stupid
Replies: 57
Views: 955

Re: The EU is stupid

I won't speak for you because clearly you know your own motivation better than me, but the idea that Brexit voters in general were just against the concept of uncontrolled immigration than the actual presence of immigrants is (in my opinion obviously) just revisionism. Not a debate I want to enter ...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 6:35 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The Brexit Party
Replies: 40
Views: 1007

Re: The Brexit Party

the bulk of Tory MPs, who know that Brexit will be bad for the country, know that a no deal Brexit will be especially bad for the country, but out of a misplaced sense of loyalty, cowardice or just the guts to do anything about it, troop through the lobbies for May. They should remember the saying,...
by ursaminortaur
February 12th, 2019, 11:49 am
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: The Brexit Party
Replies: 40
Views: 1007

Re: The Brexit Party

It looks like Brexit parties are like buses - we'll now have three of them at once - UKip, the Brexit Party and Brexit Express https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1085840/brexit-news-brexit-express-elections-jeremy-hosking-nigel-farage JUST days after Nigel Farage unveiled his new Brexit Party, ...
by ursaminortaur
February 11th, 2019, 10:51 pm
Forum: Polite Discussions
Topic: Donald Tusk
Replies: 186
Views: 2447

Re: Donald Tusk

It depends which statement from the EU you believe. They say they don't want a hard border, but they also say they must maintain the integrity of the single market. Those aren't contradictory statements. Of course they are, which is why it is so absurd for them to maintain both positions. If they a...

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