New Issue loading Lemon Fool website

[mc2fool]

I deduce that all the posters who use LMF now are probably not running anti-malware program as sensitive as Malwarebytes, or have taken the risk of making this address "safe".

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site.

I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

[SalvorHardin]

I deduce that all the posters who use LMF now are probably not running anti-malware program as sensitive as Malwarebytes, or have taken the risk of making this address "safe".

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site.

I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

I think that those of us who are getting the problem are running the MalwareBytes program (the latest premium version is 4.5.19), whereas you are running the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on for Firefox. MalwareBytes is a very zealous program.

One thing that used to bug me is that if you are typing a website address or something that you are searching for in the browser MalwareBytes can trigger an alert for another website even though you haven't typed that address. It turned out that if you have autofill enabled and one of your bookmarked websites is on MalwareBytes list, then if you start typing identical letters to that website then a warning appears.

e.g. If you start searching for "melbourne" and you have bookmarked a site called "melba" which MalwareBytes considers to be a bad website, then as you are type "melb" the warning about "melba" appears.

[mc2fool]

I deduce that all the posters who use LMF now are probably not running anti-malware program as sensitive as Malwarebytes, or have taken the risk of making this address "safe".

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site.

I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

I think that those of us who are getting the problem are running the MalwareBytes program (the latest premium version is 4.5.19), whereas you are running the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on for Firefox. MalwareBytes is a very zealous program.

I am, in fact, also running MalwareBytes 4.5.19 but the free version, so, yes, that could well be the difference.

[88V8]

I deduce that all the posters who use LMF now are probably not running anti-malware program as sensitive as Malwarebytes, or have taken the risk of making this address "safe".

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site. I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

I think that those of us who are getting the problem are running the MalwareBytes program (the latest premium version is 4.5.19), whereas you are running the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on for Firefox. MalwareBytes is a very zealous program.

I am, in fact, also running MalwareBytes 4.5.19 but the free version, so, yes, that could well be the difference.

The site is in my Favourites so I just type Le and hit the Enter key.
I have the paid version of MWB. So your cheapskate version doesn't get in the way while my paid version does.
Hmmm.

V8

[mc2fool]

I deduce that all the posters who use LMF now are probably not running anti-malware program as sensitive as Malwarebytes, or have taken the risk of making this address "safe".

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site. I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

I think that those of us who are getting the problem are running the MalwareBytes program (the latest premium version is 4.5.19), whereas you are running the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on for Firefox. MalwareBytes is a very zealous program.

I am, in fact, also running MalwareBytes 4.5.19 but the free version, so, yes, that could well be the difference.

The site is in my Favourites so I just type Le and hit the Enter key.
I have the paid version of MWB. So your cheapskate version doesn't get in the way while my paid version does.
Hmmm.

V8

LOL! Well the free version doesn't have any real time protections, so I think they would argue that you are getting what you paid for: real time protection against a (allegedly) dodgy site.

However, the free version pretty much constantly has a "14 day premium trial" offer so I've just turned that on and lo-and-behold I now get the "SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length" error. And adding http://www.lemonfool.co.uk to the allow list doesn't help, I have to add the IP address. (Also trying to add http://www.lemonfool.co.uk actually doesn't do anything as it strips out the http:// and leaves just the one entry without it. Ditto for https://)

What's also curious is the relationship between MalwareBytes (free and/or premium) and the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on. The latter certainly does block me occasionally for some (usually, AFAICS, OK) site, but not for TLF....

[Arborbridge]

This does beg the question about what's the point of having a dog and not listening to it when it barks?

If I add LMF to the safe list and at some point in the future - like tomorrow - for whatever reason, it becomes compromised, well a fat lot of good that would be as a safeguard.

I suppose one makes the choice and takes the risk, but it would be nice to see a clear explanation which also showed we are not being put in harm's way.

Arb.

[Arborbridge]

No, I use Firefox with the Malwarebytes add-on and I haven't needed to add this site to the "allow" list and have never had it block the site. I have no explanation as to why you but not me....

I think that those of us who are getting the problem are running the MalwareBytes program (the latest premium version is 4.5.19), whereas you are running the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on for Firefox. MalwareBytes is a very zealous program.

I am, in fact, also running MalwareBytes 4.5.19 but the free version, so, yes, that could well be the difference.

The site is in my Favourites so I just type Le and hit the Enter key.
I have the paid version of MWB. So your cheapskate version doesn't get in the way while my paid version does.
Hmmm.

V8

LOL! Well the free version doesn't have any real time protections, so I think they would argue that you are getting what you paid for: real time protection against a (allegedly) dodgy site.

However, the free version pretty much constantly has a "14 day premium trial" offer so I've just turned that on and lo-and-behold I now get the "SSL received a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length" error. And adding http://www.lemonfool.co.uk to the allow list doesn't help, I have to add the IP address. (Also trying to add http://www.lemonfool.co.uk actually doesn't do anything as it strips out the http:// and leaves just the one entry without it. Ditto for https://)

What's also curious is the relationship between MalwareBytes (free and/or premium) and the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on. The latter certainly does block me occasionally for some (usually, AFAICS, OK) site, but not for TLF....

At the mo, I'm running without Malwarebytes at all. A bit of a fag to have to remember to switch it on and off. BTW, I already need to turn of browser guard for ADFVN within HYPTUSS, but NOT if I use the ADVFN address in the address bar directly.

[Arborbridge]

And adding http://www.lemonfool.co.uk to the allow list doesn't help, I have to add the IP address. (Also trying to add http://www.lemonfool.co.uk actually doesn't do anything as it strips out the http:// and leaves just the one entry without it. Ditto for https://)

What's also curious is the relationship between MalwareBytes (free and/or premium) and the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on. The latter certainly does block me occasionally for some (usually, AFAICS, OK) site, but not for TLF....

But then, V8 said "I just added to the MWB Allow list, perhaps that's why I'm here." ???

Arb.

[mc2fool]

And adding http://www.lemonfool.co.uk to the allow list doesn't help, I have to add the IP address. (Also trying to add http://www.lemonfool.co.uk actually doesn't do anything as it strips out the http:// and leaves just the one entry without it. Ditto for https://)

What's also curious is the relationship between MalwareBytes (free and/or premium) and the MalwareBytes Browser Guard add-on. The latter certainly does block me occasionally for some (usually, AFAICS, OK) site, but not for TLF....

But then, V8 said "I just added to the MWB Allow list, perhaps that's why I'm here." ???

Arb.

But he didn't say what he'd added, IP or http://www.lemonfool.co.uk.

At the mo, I'm running without Malwarebytes at all. A bit of a fag to have to remember to switch it on and off.

Why don't you just add 91.146.105.202 to the allow list? Works for me at least....

[Arborbridge]

Why don't you just add 91.146.105.202 to the allow list? Works for me at least....

Done. Seems to work. Thanks.

[88V8]

But he didn't say what he'd added, IP or http://www.lemonfool.co.uk.

Initially it worked with just lemonfool.co.uk, but afterwards I added both the addresses, as you mentioned previously.

V8

[sloth]

I don't know if my issue is related to this thread: maybe not because it only started happening yesterday.

I've been unable to load LMF and receive this notice:


This happens whichever browser I use because it is Malwarebytes which has overnight taken a dislike to this site.

I can only get on here if I quit Malwarebytes, which I don't like doing. This raises two things: is the site in fact safe? and if it is what can I do about it?

The trouble with a workaround is that I ask myhself "why have a dog bark if you don't pay any attention?" There is clearly something which malware finds unwelcome here, but is it dangerous?

I've had the same problem with every browser using Windows 10.

Adding both http://www.lemonfool.co.uk and lemonfool.co.uk to the MalwareBytes Allow List lets me access the website (both addresses seem to be needed, MalwareBytes blocks access if only one address is in the Allow List). I've been running a MalwareBytes full system scan every couple of hours. So far, so good

Norton's safeweb doesn't have any problems with lemonfool, which is reassuring. Here's the link

https://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/search.php?search_id=newposts&ulang=en

I just added both versions of the URL to the Allow List as you suggested and now I can access the site again.

[BullDog]

It would appear lemonfool.co.uk was off line for a period yesterday if downforeveryoneorjustme.com is to be believed.

[88V8]

It would appear lemonfool.co.uk was off line for a period yesterday if downforeveryoneorjustme.com is to be believed.

The second link from the Beaver thread in the Snug crashed my computer. Perhaps it crashed the site...

V8

[AsleepInYorkshire]

It would appear lemonfool.co.uk was off line for a period yesterday if downforeveryoneorjustme.com is to be believed.

I has issues connecting yesterday. Lags of about 30 seconds iirc.

Today's been fine

AiY(D)

[chas49]

Today's been fine

AiY(D)

So - I have:

• The website address mapped to the IP address in my hosts file
• The website address in the Allow list on Malwarebytes

And everything was working fine yesterday.

This morning, Malwarebytes blocks the IP address

So I have to add that to the Allow list as well.

This is the only site that I have to do this for. Something's going on somewhere. Probably Malwarebytes, but who knows....

[Arborbridge]

I can get on to the site, but on some days making a connection has been impossible and I have to keep trying later. Eventually it goes back to a normal fast link.

Arb.

[Gersemi]

I can get on to the site, but on some days making a connection has been impossible and I have to keep trying later. Eventually it goes back to a normal fast link.

Arb.

Yes, I've been finding that. No issues with security programmes, but sometimes I will get the notice 'site not found check address' etc. Sometimes this will happen while I'm actually logged into the site and I'm trying to view a page on another tab. Then I'm unable to navigate at all and the loss of connection can last for quite a long time (ie I give up and go and do something else).

[SimonS]

Malwarebytes again, the paid version is giving me the following error
Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to www.lemonfool.co.uk. PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR

The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Learn more…

Shortly after that I was able to find cutetest.com piggybacked onto the Lemonfool url when googling "malware on Lemonfool.co.uk" and the second page of found items included " www.lemonfool.co.uk cutetest.com"

To get here I crudely disabled webprotection and malware in Malwarebytes, it wouldn't work with web protection off on its own

[quelquod]

Likewise I disabled Malwarebytes (paid version) to get here. Mind you I frequently need to disable the web protection option anyway as it flags so many websites that are AFAICS quite innocuous such as several computing and car forums which I frequent.

I find that in general these security systems do err on the safe side and can be quite annoying. I have a considerable number of programs on my different machines which either Malwarebytes or Windows Security or both have quarantined at some time or another and I've needed to restore. The risk is always that a warning gets missed, the offending item gets removed altogether and I don't find out until some time later. Probably worth it on balance though.