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Astrazeneca disappointment

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby idpickering » September 14th, 2018, 10:57 am

Bouleversee wrote:
idpickering wrote:
ayshfm1 wrote:
Still in law and finance words seldom seem to mean the same as I think they do.


As an ex policeman, both civil and army, I know this to be true. Even the odd comma here and there can change a sentences’ inference.

Ian.


And as for apostrophes …. :lol:


I hear you Bouleversee! Should’ve heard the rows about apostrophes when I was in the Army equivalent to the CID! Reports had to be spot on as it involves serious crimes, although obviously all reports were meant to be so, even for the uniformed Officers too.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby absolutezero » September 14th, 2018, 11:19 am

Gengulphus wrote:
idpickering wrote:As an ex policeman, both civil and army, I know this to be true. Even the odd comma here and there can change a sentences’ inference.

Indeed, and it doesn't even need to be anything specialised. One of my favourite examples is the different meanings/inferences of "No thanks to you!" and "No, thanks to you!"...

Gengulphus

Or "I helped my brother, Jack, off a horse".

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby MDW1954 » September 14th, 2018, 11:26 am

idpickering wrote:
Bouleversee wrote:
idpickering wrote:
As an ex policeman, both civil and army, I know this to be true. Even the odd comma here and there can change a sentences’ inference.

Ian.


And as for apostrophes …. :lol:


I hear you Bouleversee! Should’ve heard the rows about apostrophes when I was in the Army equivalent to the CID! Reports had to be spot on as it involves serious crimes, although obviously all reports were meant to be so, even for the uniformed Officers too.

Ian.


Ian,

Bouleversee's observation may have been slightly tongue-in-check. You might want to check that apostrophe again...

MDW1954

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby idpickering » September 14th, 2018, 11:53 am

MDW1954 wrote:
Ian,

Bouleversee's observation may have been slightly tongue-in-check. You might want to check that apostrophe again...

MDW1954


Thank you for that MDW1954. I thought I was’ right. :D

Anyway, back to AstraZeneca, I have held them for many years, and have no intention of selling. I have no intention of topping up currently either.

Ian.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby absolutezero » September 14th, 2018, 12:47 pm

idpickering wrote:
MDW1954 wrote:
Ian,

Bouleversee's observation may have been slightly tongue-in-check. You might want to check that apostrophe again...

MDW1954


Thank you for that MDW1954. I thought I was’ right. :D

Anyway, back to AstraZeneca, I have held them for many years, and have no intention of selling. I have no intention of topping up currently either.

Ian.

Me neither. 3.8% yield. Share price has been doing well lately but I won't take anything lower than 4%.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby idpickering » September 14th, 2018, 12:53 pm

absolutezero wrote:

Me neither. 3.8% yield. Share price has been doing well lately but I won't take anything lower than 4%.


I do sometimes wish I was more strict on that matter myself. I admit that when I run a screen via digitallook my minimum yield is 3%. I think I should adjust my screening going forward, and use 4% as a minimum too. It is meant to be high yield after all. Cheers.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby absolutezero » September 14th, 2018, 1:04 pm

My lower limit is 4%.
I don't have a higher limit but I suspect I should have. But there are some great shares available pushing 7%. Vodafone being one.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby idpickering » September 14th, 2018, 2:51 pm

absolutezero wrote:My lower limit is 4%.
I don't have a higher limit but I suspect I should have. But there are some great shares available pushing 7%. Vodafone being one.


Thanks for that. SSE are up there too,on a similar yield. As for AZN,I sometimes top these up in Dec, to get in before their finals divi, but won’t this year as better yields elsewhere.

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby Gengulphus » September 14th, 2018, 4:22 pm

idpickering wrote:I do sometimes wish I was more strict on that matter myself. I admit that when I run a screen via digitallook my minimum yield is 3%. I think I should adjust my screening going forward, and use 4% as a minimum too. It is meant to be high yield after all.

It might actually be worth going to https://markets.ft.com/data/indices/tea ... =UKX.D:FSI and copying the figure from there into the screen just before running it. If you click on the "5Y" button above the chart, you'll see that the FTSE100 yield (which at least this board's guidance uses as its 'high yield' threshold) has varied between a bit below 3.4% and a bit above 4.3% in the last five years, and a bit of work with the mouse and its wheel can modify that to a ~20-year chart showing it's varied between about 2% and a bit above 6% in that period... Furthermore, it not infrequently changes up or down a significant amount in a pretty short period. And indeed right now is such a period: the FTSE 100 yield from that source was 3.94% about 2.5 weeks ago when I ran the final poll for GDHYP's 51st purchase, now it's 4.13%.

I.e. 'high yield' is a moving target and can move quite quickly!

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Re: Astrazeneca disappointment

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Postby idpickering » September 14th, 2018, 4:45 pm

Gengulphus wrote:
idpickering wrote:I do sometimes wish I was more strict on that matter myself. I admit that when I run a screen via digitallook my minimum yield is 3%. I think I should adjust my screening going forward, and use 4% as a minimum too. It is meant to be high yield after all.

It might actually be worth going to https://markets.ft.com/data/indices/tea ... =UKX.D:FSI and copying the figure from there into the screen just before running it. If you click on the "5Y" button above the chart, you'll see that the FTSE100 yield (which at least this board's guidance uses as its 'high yield' threshold) has varied between a bit below 3.4% and a bit above 4.3% in the last five years, and a bit of work with the mouse and its wheel can modify that to a ~20-year chart showing it's varied between about 2% and a bit above 6% in that period... Furthermore, it not infrequently changes up or down a significant amount in a pretty short period. And indeed right now is such a period: the FTSE 100 yield from that source was 3.94% about 2.5 weeks ago when I ran the final poll for GDHYP's 51st purchase, now it's 4.13%.

I.e. 'high yield' is a moving target and can move quite quickly!

Gengulphus


Thank you very much for that Gengulphus.

Ian.


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