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Kier Group Trading Update.

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Kier Group Trading Update.

#226388

Postby idpickering » June 3rd, 2019, 7:15 am


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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby JoyofBrex8889 » June 3rd, 2019, 10:17 am

Wow. Brutal share price fall, reminiscent of Carillion. 90% loss of capital over the last several years.

40% dividend yield anyone? Anyone?

:shock:

Best high yield opportunity going: until it cancels the dividend to save cash, that is.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby idpickering » June 3rd, 2019, 10:47 am

JoyofBrex8889 wrote:Wow. Brutal share price fall, reminiscent of Carillion. 90% loss of capital over the last several years.

40% dividend yield anyone? Anyone?

:shock:

Best high yield opportunity going: until it cancels the dividend to save cash, that is.


Good heavens. Sp down 42% as I type. My sympathy towards holders. I did look at them a few years ago when I held Carillion, but never bought into the Kier.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update

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Postby Dod101 » June 3rd, 2019, 10:56 am

PMTI wrote:With the share price of KIE currently below 409p, why does KIEN have any value at all? Who would pay 6p for the right to purchase a share at 409p when you can just buy KIE for 382p? (did not update prices for simplicity in following).


Share price quoted at 163p a few minutes ago. Contractors are not a good place to be

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby JoyofBrex8889 » June 3rd, 2019, 11:42 am

The whole company is valued at less than the amount raised by the rights issue in December!

Edit to add: the Kuvari short presentation that was circulated around last year has proved to be distressingly accurate. They got Carillion right also, so I will take close note of their position and opinion carefully in future.

Edit 2: checking here: https://whalewisdom.com/filer/kuvari-pa ... tions_link

I see they also correctly spotted Mitie as a target.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » June 3rd, 2019, 10:34 pm

JoyofBrex8889 wrote:Wow. Brutal share price fall, reminiscent of Carillion. 90% loss of capital over the last several years.

40% dividend yield anyone? Anyone?

:shock:

Best high yield opportunity going: until it cancels the dividend to save cash, that is.

Hobson: I'm Wary of Spire but Upbeat on Kier
21 September, 2018
http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/17 ... -kier.aspx

AiY

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby JoyofBrex8889 » June 3rd, 2019, 11:42 pm

AsleepInYorkshire wrote:
JoyofBrex8889 wrote:Wow. Brutal share price fall, reminiscent of Carillion. 90% loss of capital over the last several years.

40% dividend yield anyone? Anyone?

:shock:

Best high yield opportunity going: until it cancels the dividend to save cash, that is.

Hobson: I'm Wary of Spire but Upbeat on Kier
21 September, 2018
http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/17 ... -kier.aspx

AiY


Oh dear. He called that one wrong.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby Gengulphus » June 17th, 2019, 7:41 am

Kier has now suspended its dividends. This is (IMHO) a significant enough piece of news in HYP terms to be worth drawing to HYPers' attention with a new thread and thread title, so I've done so - see viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18133.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby JoyofBrex8889 » June 17th, 2019, 3:41 pm

Now down at 110p. Seems more like Carillion every time I look....

I called dividend cut up thread! (not the hardest piece of prognostication I have ever had to do at 40% yield fc..... Still gratifying to be proved right....)

If I were a holder I would be taking any price I could get and running for the exit. Its priced as junk equity for a reason.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby JamesMuenchen » June 18th, 2019, 8:29 am

An analysis by an old Fool (PaulyPilot)
https://app.stockopedia.com/content/sma ... tgs-484161

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby monabri » June 18th, 2019, 9:54 am

JamesMuenchen wrote:An analysis by an old Fool (PaulyPilot)
https://app.stockopedia.com/content/sma ... tgs-484161


Unfortunately needs access to stockopedia to read the article by PaulyPilot ( is PaulyPilot the author mentioned in the Stockopedia advert, Paul Scott ?)

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby MDW1954 » June 18th, 2019, 10:41 am

monabri wrote: Is PaulyPilot the author mentioned in the Stockopedia advert, Paul Scott ?)


Yes. He's an ex-FD, too.

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby paulnumbers » June 18th, 2019, 2:07 pm

Highlighting the risk of predictions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ByMTlS0dKA&t=8m8s

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby PMTI » June 18th, 2019, 9:14 pm

monabri wrote:
JamesMuenchen wrote:An analysis by an old Fool (PaulyPilot)
https://app.stockopedia.com/content/sma ... tgs-484161


Unfortunately needs access to stockopedia to read the article by PaulyPilot ( is PaulyPilot the author mentioned in the Stockopedia advert, Paul Scott ?)


Can anyone give the gist of PaulyPilot's analysis?

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Re: Kier Group Trading Update.

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Postby PinkDalek » June 18th, 2019, 9:17 pm

PMTI wrote:Can anyone give the gist of PaulyPilot's analysis?


In so far as this board is concerned, it might well be that they are no longer High Yield.

Edit: Gengulphus commenced a Kier dividend suspension thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=18133#p230046


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