Stephen Bland - New HYP Portfolio @ Stockopedia

[PinkDalek]

I am always comforted when I see the company name on the back of a rugby club shirt.

Like Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC (RBS) sponsoring the 6 Nations you mean?


Ian

I was talking about D S Smith.

TJH

That much was clear (Wasps and Cardiff Blues) and it was also clear that (the former rugby playing) ITH had read what you wrote and provided a counter indicator.

Is this something Doris should add to her free cash flow cogitations (adding SSE to the list)?

PD (Rugby Union ex player and current supporter as well as being invested in SMDS since when I can't recall)

[IanTHughes]

Sector 12
Holding 14

Weapons Manufacturer - British Aerospace (BA) is the choice

Sector 13
Holding 15

Pharmaceuticals - GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) is the choice

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The portfolio now looks like

No. | Epic | Business     | Price | Forecast Yield
  1 | SLA  | Fund Manager |   271 |    8.00%
  2 | VOD  | Telecom      |   148 |    8.70%
  3 | IMB  | Tobacco      | 2,624 |    8.90%
  4 | BHP  | Mining       | 1,779 |    8.90%
  5 | AV   | Insurance    |   410 |    8.00%
  6 | ITV  | Television   |   128 |    6.30%
  7 | HSBA | Bank         |   615 |    6.30%
  8*| BP   | Oil          |   553 |    5.70%
  9*| RDSB | Oil          | 2,406 |    6.00%
 10*| BLND | Property     |   585 |    5.40%
 11*| LAND | Property     |   911 |    5.40%
 12 | WPP  | Advertising  |   842 |    7.10%
 13 | SMDS | Packaging    |   346 |    5.10%
 14 | BA   | Weapons      |   490 |    4.70%
 15 | GSK  | Pharma       | 1,585 |    5.00%

* These shares are multiple choice in the same sector

Ian

[monabri]

"British Aerospace " hasn't existed for ~20 years.

[Breelander]

"British Aerospace " hasn't existed for ~20 years.

Those were Ian's words. Stephen Bland called them 'BAE Systems (BA.)'.

[IanTHughes]

Sector 14
Holding 16

Gambling - IG Group Holdings (IGG) is the punt

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The portfolio now looks like

No. | Epic | Business     | Price | Forecast Yield
  1 | SLA  | Fund Manager |   271 |    8.00%
  2 | VOD  | Telecom      |   148 |    8.70%
  3 | IMB  | Tobacco      | 2,624 |    8.90%
  4 | BHP  | Mining       | 1,779 |    8.90%
  5 | AV   | Insurance    |   410 |    8.00%
  6 | ITV  | Television   |   128 |    6.30%
  7 | HSBA | Bank         |   615 |    6.30%
  8*| BP   | Oil          |   553 |    5.70%
  9*| RDSB | Oil          | 2,406 |    6.00%
 10*| BLND | Property     |   585 |    5.40%
 11*| LAND | Property     |   911 |    5.40%
 12 | WPP  | Advertising  |   842 |    7.10%
 13 | SMDS | Packaging    |   346 |    5.10%
 14 | BA   | Weapons      |   490 |    4.70%
 15 | GSK  | Pharma       | 1,585 |    5.00%
 16 | IGG  | Gambling     |   540 |    8.00%

* These shares are multiple choice in the same sector

Ian

[Itsallaguess]

The portfolio now looks like

No. | Epic | Business     | Price | Forecast Yield
  1 | SLA  | Fund Manager |   271 |    8.00%
  2 | VOD  | Telecom      |   148 |    8.70%
  3 | IMB  | Tobacco      | 2,624 |    8.90%
  4 | BHP  | Mining       | 1,779 |    8.90%
  5 | AV   | Insurance    |   410 |    8.00%
  6 | ITV  | Television   |   128 |    6.30%
  7 | HSBA | Bank         |   615 |    6.30%
  8*| BP   | Oil          |   553 |    5.70%
  9*| RDSB | Oil          | 2,406 |    6.00%
 10*| BLND | Property     |   585 |    5.40%
 11*| LAND | Property     |   911 |    5.40%
 12 | WPP  | Advertising  |   842 |    7.10%
 13 | SMDS | Packaging    |   346 |    5.10%
 14 | BA   | Weapons      |   490 |    4.70%
 15 | GSK  | Pharma       | 1,585 |    5.00%
 16 | IGG  | Gambling     |   540 |    8.00%

* These shares are multiple choice in the same sector

Now there's a sizeable number of HYP components in the above portfolio, I thought I'd throw it at the HYPTUSS tool with a notional £15,000 invested in each of the above stocks, just to see what the running portfolio forecast-yield is shown as.

Having just run the latest forecast yield-scrape, there's a couple of very slight differences in individual forecast yields, which is to be expected to some degree, but on the whole it looks like a good fit with the above data.

The overall HYP portfolio forecast-yield for the above holdings is currently showing as around 6.52% on an equal-weighting basis, which looks pretty good for such a well-balanced set of holdings.

Using the above forecast-yield figures brings the overall portfolio forecast-yield to show as 6.72%, so a touch higher.

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[IanTHughes]

Now there's a sizeable number of HYP components in the above portfolio, I thought I'd throw it at the HYPTUSS tool with a notional £15,000 invested in each of the above stock, just to see what the running portfolio forecast-yield is shown as.

Having just run the latest forecast yield-scrape, there's a couple of very slight differences in individual forecast yields, which is to be expected to some degree, but on the whole it looks like a good fit with the above data.

The overall HYP portfolio forecast-yield for the above holdings is currently showing as around 6.52% on an equal-weighting basis, which looks pretty good for such a well-balanced set of holdings.

Be sure to note that those holdi9ngs marked with "*" are half holdings - £7,500 in your above example


Ian

[Itsallaguess]

Be sure to note that those holdi9ngs marked with "*" are half holdings - £7,500 in your above example

Ah - good catch, thanks Ian.

So putting those half-holdings into the HYPTUSS tool now shows a running portfolio forecast-yield of 6.67% on current forecasts, and 6.87% on the above yield figures in the table.

It'll be interesting to follow the fortunes of this new HYP.

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[AJC5001]

So putting those half-holdings into the HYPTUSS tool now shows a running portfolio forecast-yield of 6.67% on current forecasts, and 6.87% on the above yield figures in the table.

It'll be interesting to follow the fortunes of this new HYP.

Well that should be easy with the latest version of the HYPTUSS

Given that we are at the end of the Tax year, any chance you could give us the latest Overview from this? Then taking a snapshot would give the starting point for the next Tax year.

Adrian

[Itsallaguess]

Given that we are at the end of the Tax year, any chance you could give us the latest Overview from this?

Sure, here it is at close of play today via the HYPTUSS tool overview process -

                                                                                Value    Div   Fcst 
Share                           Epic    Sector                                 %Total %Total  Yield
Standard Life Aberdeen plc      SLA     Life Insurance                           7.1%   8.6%   8.0%
Vodafone Group                  VOD     Mobile Telecommunications                7.1%   9.5%   8.9%
Imperial Brands                 IMB     Tobacco                                  7.1%   8.8%   8.2%
BHP Group                       BHP     Mining                                   7.1%   8.1%   7.6%
Aviva                           AV      Life Insurance                           7.1%   8.1%   7.6%
ITV                             ITV     Media                                    7.1%   6.5%   6.1%
HSBC Holdings                   HSBA    Banks                                    7.1%   6.5%   6.1%
BP                              BP      Oil & Gas Producers                      3.6%   3.1%   5.7%
Royal Dutch Shell 'B'           RDSB    Oil & Gas Producers                      3.6%   3.1%   5.8%
British Land Company            BLND    Retail REITs                             3.6%   2.8%   5.2%
Land Securities Group           LAND    Industrial & Office REITs                3.6%   2.8%   5.3%
WPP                             WPP     Media                                    7.1%   7.6%   7.1%
Smith (DS)                      SMDS    General Industrials                      7.1%   5.4%   5.0%
BAE Systems                     BA      Aerospace & Defence                      7.1%   5.0%   4.7%
GlaxoSmithKline                 GSK     Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology          7.1%   5.4%   5.0%
IG Group Holdings               IGG     Financial Services                       7.1%   8.7%   8.1%

Portfolio Running Yield = 6.67%

                                                 Value     Div
Sector                                          %Total  %Total
Life Insurance                                   14.3%   16.7%
Mobile Telecommunications                         7.1%    9.5%
Tobacco                                           7.1%    8.8%
Mining                                            7.1%    8.1%
Media                                            14.3%   14.1%
Banks                                             7.1%    6.5%
Oil & Gas Producers                               7.1%    6.2%
Retail REITs                                      3.6%    2.8%
Industrial & Office REITs                         3.6%    2.8%
General Industrials                               7.1%    5.4%
Aerospace & Defence                               7.1%    5.0%
Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology                   7.1%    5.4%
Financial Services                                7.1%    8.7%
Total                                           100.0%  100.0%

Note: 1...'Value %Total' is the portfolio value of the share as a % of the total portfolio
      2...'Div %Total' is the expected dividend of the share based on forecast yield
                       as a % of the total portfolio expected dividend

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[Itsallaguess]

And here's a capture of the current HYP in the HYPTUSS tool, with the approximate number of shares held based on purchase price, stamp-duty, and a notional dealing charge. With many thanks to IanTHughes for collating that base-information to help with this -



Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[Arborbridge]

And here's a capture of the current HYP in the HYPTUSS tool, with the approximate number of shares held based on purchase price, stamp-duty, and a notional dealing charge.

Itsallaguess

Tempting to unitise it.....

[moorfield]

                                                                                Value    Div   Fcst 
Share                           Epic    Sector                                 %Total %Total  Yield
Standard Life Aberdeen plc      SLA     Life Insurance                           7.1%   8.6%   8.0%

                                                 Value     Div
Sector                                          %Total  %Total
Life Insurance                                   14.3%   16.7%

SLA is a Fund Manager, not Life Insurance, which has skewed your sector weights here I think.

[Itsallaguess]

SLA is a Fund Manager, not Life Insurance, which has skewed your sector weights here I think.

This isn't something I personally own, so I can't say that I know a great deal about this, but what I can say is that there's lots, and lots of on-line resources that have SLA in the Life Insurance sector -

https://www.ii.co.uk/shares/standard-life-aberdeen/LSE:SLA

https://www.youinvest.co.uk/market-research/LSE:SLA

https://www.sharesmagazine.co.uk/shares/share/SLA

https://www.dividendmax.com/united-kingdom/london-stock-exchange/life-insurance/standard-life-aberdeen

https://shares.telegraph.co.uk/fundamentals/?epic=SLA

https://tinyurl.com/y5psgcha

Are all of those sources incorrect?

Have they exited the life insurance side of things, and the above simply haven't kept up with developments?

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

[Dod101]

Are all of those sources incorrect?

Have they exited the life insurance side of things, and the above simply haven't kept up with developments?

Yes they are all incorrect. SLA sold its life insurance operations to Pheonix Holdings about a year ago and are now purely a fund manager (not a very good one in my opinion by that is another story) They hold just under 20% of Phoenix but that is their only involvement with the life insurance sector nowadays.

Dod

[PinkDalek]

Yes they are all incorrect. SLA sold its life insurance operations to Pheonix Holdings about a year ago and are now purely a fund manager (not a very good one in my opinion by that is another story) They hold just under 20% of Phoenix but that is their only involvement with the life insurance sector nowadays.

I wondered when this would be raised. One should point out that Bland categorised them as a fund manager https://www.stockopedia.com/content/how ... yp-459388/.

[Itsallaguess]

Have they exited the life insurance side of things, and the above simply haven't kept up with developments?

Yes they are all incorrect. SLA sold its life insurance operations to Phoenix Holdings about a year ago and are now purely a fund manager (not a very good one in my opinion by that is another story) They hold just under 20% of Phoenix but that is their only involvement with the life insurance sector nowadays.

Thanks Dod (and moorfield for raising this point initially) - we'll change the SLA sector to 'Financial Services' in the HYPTUSS data-sheet.

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

Moderator Message:
Attribution corrected. - Chris

[Arborbridge]

Thanks Dod (and monabri for raising this point initially) - we'll change the SLA sector to 'Financial Services' in the HYPTUSS data-sheet.

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

I've done that and it helped me... Life insurance was over my nominal limit, it is just under at 8.73%. Financial services is now on the limit at 9.77% but two of those companies I class as "gambling" anyway: IG index and Man Group. The only true fund managers I have are Schroders and SLA.

Arb.

[IanTHughes]

And here's a capture of the current HYP in the HYPTUSS tool, with the approximate number of shares held based on purchase price, stamp-duty, and a notional dealing charge.

Tempting to unitise it.....

Already done but not much to report at the moment


Ian

[Arborbridge]

And here's a capture of the current HYP in the HYPTUSS tool, with the approximate number of shares held based on purchase price, stamp-duty, and a notional dealing charge.

Tempting to unitise it.....

Already done


Ian

Will you publish from time to time? Just as importantly (and more of a chore) is keeping tabs on, and unitising the income per unit.

Arb.