The Lemon Fool

Arborbridge wrote:Half way through a rather too exciting a year, and time for a idea of what the damage is.

12 month rolling income:

in pence per unit        June 30 2019              June 30 2020        change
HYP                         7.29                     6.32              -13.3%
incITs                      7.36                     7.69              + 4.48%
incOEICs                    7.44                     7.19              - 3.3%

On that basis, ITs have served me rather well owing to their reserving capability, presumably, though the surprise is that the OEIC income hasn't dropped more.

12 month change in unit price:

price of income unit in pence June 30 2019            June 30 2020      change
HYP                             126.72                   115.56         -8.8%
incITs                          170.19                   144.35         -15.1%
OEIC                            168.88                   141.96         -15.9%

Arb.

Is there a more pronounced geographic spread regarding where the IncITs and OEICs are invested compared with the HYP?

Charlottesquare wrote:

Arborbridge wrote:Half way through a rather too exciting a year, and time for a idea of what the damage is.

12 month rolling income:

in pence per unit        June 30 2019              June 30 2020        change
HYP                         7.29                     6.32              -13.3%
incITs                      7.36                     7.69              + 4.48%
incOEICs                    7.44                     7.19              - 3.3%

On that basis, ITs have served me rather well owing to their reserving capability, presumably, though the surprise is that the OEIC income hasn't dropped more.

12 month change in unit price:

price of income unit in pence June 30 2019            June 30 2020      change
HYP                             126.72                   115.56         -8.8%
incITs                          170.19                   144.35         -15.1%
OEIC                            168.88                   141.96         -15.9%

Arb.

Is there a more pronounced geographic spread regarding where the IncITs and OEICs are invested compared with the HYP?

Moderator Message:
Discussion of such ITs is not allowed on this board. They are allowed to be included for the sake of completeness in otherwise pure HYP presentations.

You can however discuss these on High Yield Shares & Strategies - General by quoting Arb's post there. Thank you. Chris

As requested, I won't discuss it here, but the simple to the question is "YES". My main benchmark - a basket of income ITs - does contain some international input, - about 4 ITs (3 far east or asia, one Europe) from 16. I don't know the detailed breakdown - I've never checked.

From my POV, the comparison is purely personal to answer questions about my management of HYP compared with letting others do it for me. An on-going experiment which will continue until the answer is no longer relevant, I suspect

And just to reiterate Chris's warning: this is simply to answer Charlottesquare's question, NOT to stimulate discussion.

Arb.

Arborbridge wrote:

Charlottesquare wrote:

Arborbridge wrote:Half way through a rather too exciting a year, and time for a idea of what the damage is.

12 month rolling income:

in pence per unit        June 30 2019              June 30 2020        change
HYP                         7.29                     6.32              -13.3%
incITs                      7.36                     7.69              + 4.48%
incOEICs                    7.44                     7.19              - 3.3%

On that basis, ITs have served me rather well owing to their reserving capability, presumably, though the surprise is that the OEIC income hasn't dropped more.

12 month change in unit price:

price of income unit in pence June 30 2019            June 30 2020      change
HYP                             126.72                   115.56         -8.8%
incITs                          170.19                   144.35         -15.1%
OEIC                            168.88                   141.96         -15.9%

Arb.

Is there a more pronounced geographic spread regarding where the IncITs and OEICs are invested compared with the HYP?

Moderator Message:
Discussion of such ITs is not allowed on this board. They are allowed to be included for the sake of completeness in otherwise pure HYP presentations.

You can however discuss these on High Yield Shares & Strategies - General by quoting Arb's post there. Thank you. Chris

As requested, I won't discuss it here, but the simple to the question is "YES". My main benchmark - a basket of income ITs - does contain some international input, - about 4 ITs (3 far east or asia, one Europe) from 16. I don't know the detailed breakdown - I've never checked.

From my POV, the comparison is purely personal to answer questions about my management of HYP compared with letting others do it for me. An on-going experiment which will continue until the answer is no longer relevant, I suspect

And just to reiterate Chris's warning: this is simply to answer Charlottesquare's question, NOT to stimulate discussion.

Arb.

Thanks for response, having been chastised I will not continue the discussion.