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Renewable + conventional trends

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby 88V8 » March 2nd, 2021, 1:20 pm

dspp wrote:thanks to JohnKempReuters Global energy access and use - Selected indicators

So, the penultimate slide, in 2014 we were second in the world, only a tittle behind Italy - Italy?? - in GDP per MW consumption.
How on earth did we do that?

It actually says 'Real GDP' whatever that may be, so maybe we didn't really do it.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 2nd, 2021, 1:59 pm

88V8 wrote:
dspp wrote:thanks to JohnKempReuters Global energy access and use - Selected indicators

So, the penultimate slide, in 2014 we were second in the world, only a tittle behind Italy - Italy?? - in GDP per MW consumption.
How on earth did we do that?

It actually says 'Real GDP' whatever that may be, so maybe we didn't really do it.

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It means we have exported our manufacturing industry, and don't use much air conditioning.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby tjh290633 » March 6th, 2021, 11:41 am

I have posted elswhere viewtopic.php?p=393047#p393047 about an article in Chemistry World, https://www.chemistryworld.com/features ... 77.article which points out a potential problem in 25-30 years time, when solar panels wear out.

But as PV leaders are well aware, the pathway to sustainable energy generation is not yet complete. A typical PV module is expected to have a 25–30 year working life. Today’s rapid growth in installed PV will be mirrored, a couple of decades down the track, by an equally sharp rise in PV panels ready to be retired. Heath and his Task 12 colleagues have estimated that the world will face a cumulative mass of 8 million tonnes of end-of-life PV modules by 2030, and 80 million tonnes by 2050, by which time it could represent more than 10% of global e-waste.

‘A lot of people have the misconception that putting solar panels on their roof solves the problem of sustainable energy generation,’ says Meng Tao, a solar researcher at Arizona State University in the US. ‘But there are two elements to it. One part is having a sustainable energy source – but the other part is having a sustainable technology to utilise that resource.’ Today, most used PV ends up in landfill, hardly a sustainable solution. But work to circularise the PV economy is well underway.


Worth reading, in my view.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » March 6th, 2021, 3:13 pm

tjh290633 wrote:I have posted elswhere viewtopic.php?p=393047#p393047 about an article in Chemistry World, https://www.chemistryworld.com/features ... 77.article which points out a potential problem in 25-30 years time, when solar panels wear out.

But as PV leaders are well aware, the pathway to sustainable energy generation is not yet complete. A typical PV module is expected to have a 25–30 year working life. Today’s rapid growth in installed PV will be mirrored, a couple of decades down the track, by an equally sharp rise in PV panels ready to be retired. Heath and his Task 12 colleagues have estimated that the world will face a cumulative mass of 8 million tonnes of end-of-life PV modules by 2030, and 80 million tonnes by 2050, by which time it could represent more than 10% of global e-waste.

‘A lot of people have the misconception that putting solar panels on their roof solves the problem of sustainable energy generation,’ says Meng Tao, a solar researcher at Arizona State University in the US. ‘But there are two elements to it. One part is having a sustainable energy source – but the other part is having a sustainable technology to utilise that resource.’ Today, most used PV ends up in landfill, hardly a sustainable solution. But work to circularise the PV economy is well underway.


Worth reading, in my view.

TJH

Looks like a good website, TJH.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby tjh290633 » March 6th, 2021, 8:46 pm

It's the monthly magazine of the Royal Society of Chemistry, of which I am a Fellow. Every now and then something of general interest crops up, but the subject is vast. Back in 1951 the syllabus for my degree said "Candidates are required to show an acquaintanceship with Inorganic Chemistry, Organic Chemistry and Physical Chemistry". Even then you could only scratch the surface.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 9th, 2021, 12:05 pm

More on Virtual Power Plants (VPP), aka intelligent grid, aka buzzword bingo

"How Hard Is It to Build A Virtual Power Plant Anyway?
A closer look at the concepts and technology that will change the way we use electric power."

https://www.tdworld.com/smart-utility/a ... 6625890F1B

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 9th, 2021, 1:54 pm

thanks to JohnKempReuters

"7 key trends from renewable energy's 2020 prices and some initial takeaways from Texas 2021"
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/7-key- ... as/596186/

"BP's Australia oil refinery on track to shut this month"
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-aust ... KKBN2B10G0

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby Wyneric » March 9th, 2021, 5:14 pm

dspp wrote:thanks to JohnKempReuters

"7 key trends from renewable energy's 2020 prices and some initial takeaways from Texas 2021"
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/7-key- ... as/596186/

"BP's Australia oil refinery on track to shut this month"
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-aust ... KKBN2B10G0

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Thanks for that...although there is a general trend towards green energy, nowadays there is little MSM news on current events in the Middle East.
What has become abundantly clear is, things are becoming increasingly unstable.
Not quite daily, but regularly, Houthi rebels (read Iran) are firing long range ballistic missiles at strategic oil facilities in Saudi Arabia (there is a question as to whether some actually originate from Iraq).

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Houthi-Rebels-Launched-New-Ballistic-Missile-Strike.html

I can recommend following @AuroraIntel and @ELINTNews on twitter.

I doubt this can continue for much longer without an escalation. Then you have the recent co-operation between Israel and Arab States which is odd in itself, and finally, following the recent attack on an Israeli Car Carrier, Netanyahu has reiterated that.....
....." it was his country's top priority that "Iran won't have nuclear weapons, with or without an agreement"."
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2021/3/1/netanyahu-blames-iran-for-boat-attack-says-striking-back

All I would say is, geopolitically, oil still has an important part to play in the near future...

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 9th, 2021, 5:21 pm

Wyneric wrote:
dspp wrote:thanks to JohnKempReuters

"7 key trends from renewable energy's 2020 prices and some initial takeaways from Texas 2021"
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/7-key- ... as/596186/

"BP's Australia oil refinery on track to shut this month"
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-aust ... KKBN2B10G0

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Thanks for that...although there is a general trend towards green energy, nowadays there is little MSM news on current events in the Middle East.
What has become abundantly clear is, things are becoming increasingly unstable.
Not quite daily, but regularly, Houthi rebels (read Iran) are firing long range ballistic missiles at strategic oil facilities in Saudi Arabia (there is a question as to whether some actually originate from Iraq).

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Saudi-Arabia-Houthi-Rebels-Launched-New-Ballistic-Missile-Strike.html

I can recommend following @AuroraIntel and @ELINTNews on twitter.

I doubt this can continue for much longer without an escalation. Then you have the recent co-operation between Israel and Arab States which is odd in itself, and finally, following the recent attack on an Israeli Car Carrier, Netanyahu has reiterated that.....
....." it was his country's top priority that "Iran won't have nuclear weapons, with or without an agreement"."
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2021/3/1/netanyahu-blames-iran-for-boat-attack-says-striking-back

All I would say is, geopolitically, oil still has an important part to play in the near future...


Yes, I prob should have put up the corresponding Reuters on the Yemini attacks on Saudi facilities https://www.reuters.com/article/us-yeme ... SKBN2B01CM At what point does Saudi decide to set a proxy loose on Iran ? (and I don't mean the US ! ).

Something that has received far less comment than it deserved imho was the direct and/or indirect participation by Israel on the Turkish-Azeri side against Russia-Armenia over Nagorno-Krabakh. You have only to look at a map and think hmmmmm..... That has many implications for oil I think.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby Wyneric » March 9th, 2021, 5:26 pm

At what point does Saudi decide to set a proxy loose on Iran ? (and I don't mean the US ! ).


With the current military co-operation between Arab States and Israel (unheard of), I think we're beyond proxies....

https://twitter.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1369309699158446087

also...looks like the Israeli's are intensifying attacks on military convoys (presumably Iranian) on the Iraq/Syria border...

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 9th, 2021, 6:49 pm

Wyneric wrote:
At what point does Saudi decide to set a proxy loose on Iran ? (and I don't mean the US ! ).


With the current military co-operation between Arab States and Israel (unheard of), I think we're beyond proxies....

https://twitter.com/IsraelRadar_com/status/1369309699158446087

also...looks like the Israeli's are intensifying attacks on military convoys (presumably Iranian) on the Iraq/Syria border...


The Iranians are striking at a lot of targets in Saudi, using their proxies.

When will the Saudis start striking at a lot of targets in Iran, using their proxies ? (and I don't just mean isolated assassinations and industrial happenstances)

This is in many ways a battle for who will be able to extract maximum value from post-peak oil over the next three decades, and to position for beyond that.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby 88V8 » March 9th, 2021, 11:13 pm

dspp wrote:This is in many ways a battle for who will be able to extract maximum value from post-peak oil over the next three decades, and to position for beyond that.

Yes, it will be funny if the last hoorah for Big Oil arises from a bunch of religious primitives shooting at each other.
The UK media are so insouciant about energy/distracted with trivia they can't even be bothered to report it.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 12th, 2021, 10:07 am

88V8 wrote:
dspp wrote:This is in many ways a battle for who will be able to extract maximum value from post-peak oil over the next three decades, and to position for beyond that.

Yes, it will be funny if the last hoorah for Big Oil arises from a bunch of religious primitives shooting at each other.
The UK media are so insouciant about energy/distracted with trivia they can't even be bothered to report it.

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Israel 'bombed a dozen ships carrying Iranian oil or weapons in past two years'
Unconfirmed attacks would suggest opening of new front in semi-covert conflict between arch-foes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ons-report

What was that you were saying about religious primitives ?

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby 88V8 » March 12th, 2021, 10:52 pm

dspp wrote:What was that you were saying about religious primitives ?

Yes, I was righter than I knew.
And if it had been widely reported I'm sure we would have seen an effect on the PoO.
But the media are bored with the Muddle East.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 17th, 2021, 9:31 am

New energy storage deployment topped record 3,500 MWh in 2020, [US] ESA report shows
Overall for the year, nearly 1,500 MW of capacity and 3,500 MWh in new storage was brought online [in USA]. The capacity total was 179 percent higher than the previous year’s installations.
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/st ... 2021-03-17

U.S. solar saw record growth during the pandemic year
The U.S. solar industry grew 43% and installed a record 19.2 gigawatts (GWdc) of capacity in 2020, according to the U.S. Solar Market Insight 2020 Year-in-Review report, released today by the Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) and Wood Mackenzie. For the second year in a row, solar led all technologies in new electric-generating capacity added, accounting for 43%. According to Wood Mackenzie’s 10-year forecast, the U.S. solar industry will install a cumulative 324 GWdc of new capacity to reach a total of 419 GWdc over the next decade
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/so ... 2021-03-17

Global wind industry reached nearly 100 GW of new installed capacity in 2020
According to recent analysis by BloombergNEF, in last year’s record-setting year, the wind market commissioned nearly 100 gigawatts (GW) of new build in 2020. Undeterred by COVID-19, installations grew 59% year-on-year. Developers commissioned 96.3 GW of wind turbines globally in 2020, compared with 60.7 GW the previous year, said BNEF. Most of these were on land (94%), as the addition of new turbines at sea fell to 6.1 gigawatts – a 19% drop compared to 2019. Just four manufacturers accounted for more than half (51%) of the machines deployed. General Electric (GE), Vestas, Goldwind and Envision all commissioned over 10 GW last year.
https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/wi ... 2021-03-17

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 18th, 2021, 10:19 am

"Oil firms knew decades ago fossil fuels posed grave health risks, files reveal
Exclusive: documents seen by Guardian show companies fought clean-air rules despite being aware of harm caused by air pollution
The oil industry knew at least 50 years ago that air pollution from burning fossil fuels posed serious risks to human health, only to spend decades aggressively lobbying against clean air regulations, a trove of internal documents seen by the Guardian reveal. The documents, which include internal memos and reports, show the industry was long aware that it created large amounts of air pollution, that pollutants could lodge deep in the lungs and be “real villains in health effects”, and even that its own workers may be experiencing birth defects among their children."


"This undermining of air-pollution science is likened by some researchers to efforts by tobacco companies to muddy the connection between cigarette smoking and cancer. “The fossil-fuel industry was sowing uncertainty to maintain business as usual, and in all likelihood they were collaborating with other groups, such as the tobacco industry,” said Carroll Muffett, chief executive of the Center for International Environmental Law. “When you look at these historical documents in context it becomes clear that the oil and gas industry has a playbook they’ve used again and again for an array of pollutants. They used it around climate change but absolutely we are seeing it around PM2.5 as well. It’s the same pattern.”"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -documents

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 18th, 2021, 11:19 am

Key issues for China’s 14th Five Year Plan

A worthwhile series of energy policy issues commenting on the latest China 5 Year Plan. The normal tensions : strategic self reliance promotes coal, indigenous oil & gas scanty, coal-to-liquids may rise but is energy & emissions costly, emissions trading market internally, steady undemanding increased renewables targets, balancing eastern seabord gas imports vs western gas pipelines, need for emissions reduction whilst still delivering economic growth, national vs regional.

https://www.oxfordenergy.org/wpcms/wp-c ... r-Plan.pdf

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 19th, 2021, 10:51 am

[US EIA] Less electricity was generated by coal than nuclear in the United States in 2020

61% reduction since 2008

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=47196

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby dspp » March 22nd, 2021, 12:00 pm

Chinese aluminium decarbonisation - signs of biting, or at least nibbling
https://www.reuters.com/article/china-a ... SL1N2LH0ZP

"Shanghai aluminium prices have this week powered to their highest level since August 2011.....The surge in speculative activity follows the mandated curtailment of smelting capacity in the city of Baotou in Inner Mongolia, as the provincial government tries to meet its quarterly energy targets. The suspensions are small, at around 200,000 tonnes of annualised capacity,"

A long and relevant article.

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Re: Renewable + conventional trends

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Postby 88V8 » March 23rd, 2021, 10:04 am

dspp wrote:Chinese aluminium decarbonisation - signs of biting, or at least nibbling

Not so long ago, allowing industrial production to be curtailed by 'the green crap' would have been derided.
Times they are a changin'.

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