Talking of glasses of beer...

[DiamondEcho]

One of my regular pubs sells beer in schooners (as well as halves, pints, quarts and three third-pint glasses of different beers). A schooner is two-thirds of a pint. Julian F. G. W.

It seems that the British measure, a schooner, was legislated for in 2011.

'Schooner Wars, January 17, 2011, By Dr Brett J. Stubbs
For centuries the Poms have drunk their ale from regulation pint and half-pint measures, but as a result of recent legislation, UK publicans will now also be allowed to fill intermediate-sized glasses of about two-thirds of a pint capacity.' [continues, article also includes an image of an ad by Fosters listing the various beer measures by state in Australia].
http://www.brewsnews.com.au/2011/01/schooner-wars/

Also outlined here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12113880

[AJC5001]

It seems that the British measure, a schooner, was legislated for in 2011.

A schooner was what Berni Inns served their sherry in.


Adrian

[foundone]

I think that the whole point is that pubs consistently try to rob you with brim measures. Banks's (spelling is correct!) always used to dispense a pint into an oversize glass which allowed for a 1" head. This was great when you took your glass to a brim measure outlet.

[Alaric]

You're arguing definitions if you call that short measure.

I think that was what the Court case was about. It was argued that the "pint" was the volume of liquid after the head had settled.

[UncleEbenezer]

You're arguing definitions if you call that short measure.

I think that was what the Court case was about. It was argued that the "pint" was the volume of liquid after the head had settled.

No argument there.

I was replying to someone's comment about things being different in some other countries. I've seen that for myself, and if I apply Brit standards then I might feel short-changed. But it hasn't happened in a bar where I know the manager well enough to raise the issue in a non-confrontational manner, and it doesn't bother me enough to make an issue of it.

[JMN2]

Belgians, French and Italians might be very laissez-faire in their dispensing methodology but in one European country at least one gets a foamless half a litre and exactly that as it's all calibrated by a computer to the millimetre. The fact that it's all done in metric system is an added insult.

[Hallucigenia]

On the Greene King thing, I suspect they have the opposite problem to what people are thinking of. It's not a question of a beer being on too long, I suspect that if they're cracking through a couple of casks of IPA a week, then they might only clean the IPA line every third barrel, as long as it happens once a week. Ditto with the lager lines. It means that when they're busy they just swap to another cask/keg to keep on serving, they can clean the lines when they finish a barrel when it's quiet.

It's a bit different on a guest ale line where every barrel is different.

General rule is that good pubs clean their lines once a week, less good pubs once a fortnight, terrible pubs not at all...

[UncleIan]

A friend of mine ran a pub that was carefully monitored by the pub co. He cleaned the lines after closing one night so we could all have a few free pints.

[JMN2]

The place I visit mostly has a temperature-controlled room with a glass wall for viewing and beers are gravity-dispensed. So no dodgy shenanigans with the beer, no lines to clean. If the beer is not right it stays on the naughty step until it is, or the brewery is asked to take it back. Schooner ie 2/3 stemmed glass is the default size for keykegged beers.

[redsturgeon]

The place I visit mostly has a temperature-controlled room with a glass wall for viewing and beers are gravity-dispensed. So no dodgy shenanigans with the beer, no lines to clean. If the beer is not right it stays on the naughty step until it is, or the brewery is asked to take it back. Schooner ie 2/3 stemmed glass is the default size for keykegged beers.

Where is this paragon of virtue?

John

[JMN2]

The place I visit mostly has a temperature-controlled room with a glass wall for viewing and beers are gravity-dispensed. So no dodgy shenanigans with the beer, no lines to clean. If the beer is not right it stays on the naughty step until it is, or the brewery is asked to take it back. Schooner ie 2/3 stemmed glass is the default size for keykegged beers.

Where is this paragon of virtue?

John

My nationality is known there and may be known here too so I'll keep that a secret.

[Hallucigenia]

The place I visit mostly has a temperature-controlled room with a glass wall for viewing and beers are gravity-dispensed. So no dodgy shenanigans with the beer, no lines to clean. If the beer is not right it stays on the naughty step until it is, or the brewery is asked to take it back. Schooner ie 2/3 stemmed glass is the default size for keykegged beers.

Where is this paragon of virtue?

John

Paragon of virtue? Tha's must 'av stronger gravity dawn sowth, if gravity can push beer through t'sparklers....