Page 2 of 2

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 11th, 2021, 6:15 pm
by dspp
XFool wrote:As I pointed out elsewhere, the LF posted description on the board says posters' should bear in mind that it is publicly visible. It isn't. Unless by "publicly visible" they mean it can be seen if you are logged on to your LF account, but don't need additional registration as with PD.


1. PD is gone. It is no more.

2. TLF is publicly visible. Open an incognito browser session if you want to check this. The Mod Board is an exception to this.

regards, dspp

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 11th, 2021, 6:18 pm
by PinkDalek
XFool wrote:...
PinkDalek wrote:Do you know where your a few other places might be (other than the Mod Room)?

Ignoring obviously private areas (account settings etc.) there is the Brokers and Share Dealing board. I believe the reason for this has been given in the past.


I'd forgotten that one, thanks for the memory jog.

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 11th, 2021, 6:18 pm
by XFool
dspp wrote:
XFool wrote:As I pointed out elsewhere, the LF posted description on the board says posters' should bear in mind that it is publicly visible. It isn't. Unless by "publicly visible" they mean it can be seen if you are logged on to your LF account, but don't need additional registration as with PD.

1. PD is gone. It is no more.

2. TLF is publicly visible. Open an incognito browser session if you want to check this. The Mod Board is an exception to this.

regards, dspp

OK. People want to go round and round in circles - Go around in circles! Everybody needs a hobby...

I was merely trying to be helpful - believe it or not! :roll:

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 11th, 2021, 6:21 pm
by PinkDalek
dspp wrote:... 2. TLF is publicly visible. Open an incognito browser session if you want to check this. The Mod Board is an exception to this.


I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier reply, confirming the situation with Current Affairs & News, which I checked incognito, and to which XFool has just added Brokers and Share Dealing (which I think you've now seen).

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 14th, 2021, 10:01 pm
by stooz
XFool wrote:
mc2fool wrote:...but just to point out that TLF is a public-to-read website -- you only need to login to post --

Apart from the Current Affairs & News boards (plus a few other places).


Not entirely. The search engine bots have their own access points so can read more. It's the humans that need to create an account to see more.

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 15th, 2021, 2:41 pm
by mc2fool
stooz wrote:
XFool wrote:
mc2fool wrote:...but just to point out that TLF is a public-to-read website -- you only need to login to post --

Apart from the Current Affairs & News boards (plus a few other places).

Not entirely. The search engine bots have their own access points so can read more. It's the humans that need to create an account to see more.

Are you sure about that? Take, for example, the thread about BBC news coverage on that board. The text of it starts:

Quite a contrast in news channels today. Both Sky and BBC were covering Sturgeon's evidence live today, both switched away to cover the budget, but then BBC have switched back to yet more live coverage of Sturgeon.
Odd choice of priorities, because surely the budget ramifications are far more important to most UK viewers then what's happening in Scotland.
...

The text in black is all you'll see if you don't log in, followed by "login to view the rest of this post".

If I google the first sentence, https://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.lemonfool.co.uk "Quite a contrast in news channels today", it finds the post.

If, however, I google a phrase just past what I'd see without logging in, e.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.lemonfool.co.uk "Odd choice of priorities", it doesn't find the post.

Further, if you look at the cached copy of the post found by the first search you'll see it shows the truncated not-logged-in version.

So, all that indicates to me that at least google can't see any more than non-logged in humans do.

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 18th, 2021, 3:51 pm
by stooz
SImple question - is it any better?

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 18th, 2021, 3:58 pm
by chas49
stooz wrote:SImple question - is it any better?


Trying the search that CK did (see first post of this thread), I got 17 results. Looks like something has worked :)

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 18th, 2021, 8:56 pm
by Gengulphus
But with regard to the big gap in search results (from February 2017 to September 2019) I described in viewtopic.php?p=394387#p394387 above, no, it's no better - unless you count having to go to page 41 of the results to observe the gap (rather than page 40 which the link in that post goes to) as better!

Gengulphus

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 18th, 2021, 10:12 pm
by stooz
Thats still odd...

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 18th, 2021, 10:18 pm
by Mike4
On another site (a little larger than this, but using the same phpBB) I used to visit, the site admin had endless similar complaints about the site search not working.

They fixed it by installing something they called "elastic search" which worked LOADS (technical term) better.

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 19th, 2021, 8:42 pm
by stooz
I'm familiar with elastic servers. I will investigate...

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 19th, 2021, 9:00 pm
by csearle
stooz wrote:I'm familiar with elastic servers. I will investigate...
Q. What's the collective noun for elastic servers? A. A band of them.

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 19th, 2021, 9:27 pm
by Mike4
csearle wrote:
stooz wrote:I'm familiar with elastic servers. I will investigate...
Q. What's the collective noun for elastic servers? A. A band of them.


You're stretching your credibility with that godawful pun!

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 19th, 2021, 10:22 pm
by dspp
stooz wrote:I'm familiar with elastic servers. I will investigate...


Thank you Stooz. Getting the actual TLF site we have here (courtesy of you) working to its utmost is a darn sight more important than adding in share pricing imho. Good search is important to a lot of us.

regards, dspp

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 20th, 2021, 12:23 am
by vrdiver
I've come across sites that embed a search box that uses the Google site search functionality, simply to address the poor bb results.

Something like the https://homedistiller.org/forum/ for example :)

Maybe something to add to TLF?

VRD

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 23rd, 2021, 11:12 pm
by stooz
Yes that's easy to do as a alternative. I'm looking into it

Re: Hopeless search facility

Posted: March 26th, 2021, 9:18 am
by monabri
I'd also rather have a better search facility than visible share prices.