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New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby kiloran » March 10th, 2019, 7:49 pm

Way back in January, TUK020 got in touch with Itsallaguess and me with some ideas to enhance the HYPTUSS. Users talk.... we listen! For the past few months, we've been burning the midnight oil, slaving over our keyboards, sustained only by the odd beer and single malt.

So, here is HYPTUSS version 11.65 (excel) and b-j (OpenOffice/LibreOffice) with some new functionality. The changes are:

  1. Addition of an Overview sheet, This provides a summary of the High Yield Portfolio Sheet by company and sector, with the ability to easily format the data for adding to a Lemon Fool post.
  2. Addition of a Snapshots sheet. This allows the accumulation of datestamped copies of the High Yield Portfolio to allow comparison of the portfolio constituents and value over time
  3. Ability to switch between Sectors and Super-Sectors
  4. Divedend Data recently changed the structure of their website so dividends could no longer be retrieved. The macros have been modified to accomodate this change
  5. Changing the "Instructions" button on the "High Yield Portfolio" sheet to a "User Guide" button which links directly to the User Guide at: http://lemonfoolfinancialsoftware.weebl ... op-up.html
  6. For the OpenOffice/LibreOffice version, some macros such as Add/Delete share have been changed from Basic to Python. This should have no effect on the user, but the new macros are a little bit snappier in operation and use coding more consistent with the rest of the HYPTUSS
  7. A button to provide a solution to the Brexit problem. (just kidding. Though it would be nice :D )

The new versions are available here: http://lemonfoolfinancialsoftware.weebl ... op-up.html packaged as zip files with the User Guide (you will read it, won't you ;) )

The process to migrate to the new version is unchanged, but this short video may help if you are unsure: https://vimeo.com/232215342
Or refer to Page 21 of the User Guide for step-by-step instructions.

Please, please, please let there be no calamitous bugs, we have done a lot of testing. Honest.

And thanks to TUK020 for the suggestions.

Have fun, fellow HYPers

--kiloran

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Itsallaguess » March 10th, 2019, 8:09 pm

kiloran wrote:
  • Ability to switch between Sectors and Super-Sectors


For info, the above new 'Sector / Super-Sector' functionality can be seen being used in the post linked below, where the 'Sector Weighting' chart will show the different portfolio weightings depending on the current sector / super-sector option being used when activated -

https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=16638&p=206459p206459#p206459

The 'Overview' sheet will also use either the sector or super-sector configuration as well, depending on the current setting when each overview is generated.

I should also add that the sector / super-sector naming convention is still user-editable on the Digital Look Data Sheet, for anyone that wishes to alter the current allocated sectors for any listed company.

As always, Kiloran and I are keen to hear any feedback from early adopters of this new HYPTUSS release....

Cheers,

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby EssDeeAitch » March 10th, 2019, 9:08 pm

OK, it looks like I am the first to test and post my (very small) HYP using the "Generate Lemon Fool Table" functionality so here it is.

Good work IAAG and kiloran, many thanks

                                                                                Value    Div   Fcst 
Share Epic Sector %Total %Total Yield

Greene King GNK Travel & Leisure 17.0% 13.0% 5.2%
Imperial Brands IMB Tobacco 12.6% 14.4% 7.8%
Rio Tinto RIO Mining 13.9% 11.8% 5.8%
Royal Dutch Shell 'B' RDSB Oil & Gas Producers 11.4% 10.4% 6.2%
Standard Life Aberdeen plc SLA Life Insurance 9.0% 12.4% 9.4%
Vodafone Group VOD Mobile Telecommunications 11.3% 15.6% 9.4%
WPP WPP Media 10.6% 10.9% 7.0%
National Grid NG Multiutilities 14.2% 11.7% 5.6%

Portfolio Running Yield = 6.82%


Value Div
Sector %Total %Total

Travel & Leisure 17.0% 13.0%
Tobacco 12.6% 14.4%
Mining 13.9% 11.8%
Oil & Gas Producers 11.4% 10.4%
Life Insurance 9.0% 12.4%
Mobile Telecommunications 11.3% 15.6%
Media 10.6% 10.9%
Multiutilities 14.2% 11.7%
Total 100.0% 100.0%

Note: 1...'Value %Total' is the portfolio value of the share as a % of the total portfolio
2...'Div %Total' is the expected dividend of the share based on forecast yield
as a % of the total portfolio expected dividend

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Breelander » March 11th, 2019, 1:59 am

Itsallaguess wrote:As always, Kiloran and I are keen to hear any feedback from early adopters of this new HYPTUSS release....


Well, HYPTUSS b-j passes the 'Bree' test :). Took a while to migrate as I have a lot of my own 'additions' to migrate, mainly in columns AA:AF (and a few other cells) on the High Yield Portfolio sheet.

Compare this Overview with my lovingly hand-crated one using the same data, looks to be the same (better, actually, appears the dividend I gave for PSN was in error :oops:).

                                                                                Value    Div   Fcst 
Share Epic Sector %Total %Total Yield

Persimmon PSN Household Goods & Home Construction 6.9% 12.7% 10.4%
Diageo DGE Beverages 6.1% 2.5% 2.3%
Electrocomponents ECM Support Services 5.5% 2.7% 2.8%
Unilever ULVR Food Producers 5.3% 3.3% 3.5%
Reckitt Benckiser Group RB Household Goods & Home Construction 5.0% 2.5% 2.9%
BAE Systems BA Aerospace & Defence 4.9% 4.2% 4.9%
IMI IMI Industrial Engineering 4.8% 3.7% 4.3%
LLoyds Banking Group 9.75% Non LLPD Not Defined 4.5% 5.2% 6.6%
Royal Dutch Shell 'B' RDSB Oil & Gas Producers 4.5% 4.9% 6.1%
Halfords Group HFD General Retailers 4.1% 5.3% 7.2%
United Utilities Group UU Gas, Water & Multiutilities 4.1% 3.5% 4.9%
GlaxoSmithKline GSK Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 4.1% 3.8% 5.3%
Rio Tinto RIO Mining 3.8% 3.9% 5.8%
Vodafone Group VOD Mobile Telecommunications 3.8% 6.2% 9.4%
Aviva AV Life Insurance 3.7% 5.3% 8.1%
BT Group BT-A Fixed Line Telecommunications 3.7% 4.6% 7.0%
Centrica CNA Gas, Water & Multiutilities 3.3% 5.5% 9.4%
SSE SSE Electricity 3.3% 3.8% 6.6%
British Land Company BLND Retail REITs 3.3% 3.1% 5.3%
Lloyds Banking Group LLOY Banks 2.6% 2.5% 5.5%
RSA Insurance Group RSA Nonlife Insurance 2.4% 2.4% 5.6%
Marks and Spencer Group MKS General Retailers 2.3% 2.7% 6.6%
Pearson PSON Media 2.3% 1.0% 2.5%
Tesco TSCO Food & Drug Retailers 1.6% 0.9% 3.1%
Wood Group (John) WG Oil Equipment, Services & Distribution 1.2% 1.1% 5.0%
De La Rue DLAR Support Services 1.2% 1.3% 6.1%
Sainsbury (J) SBRY Food & Drug Retailers 0.9% 0.8% 4.7%
Barclays BARC Banks 0.7% 0.5% 4.6%

Running Yield: 5.66%

Value Div
Sector %Total %Total

Food & Drug Retailers 2.6% 1.7%
Aerospace & Defence 4.9% 4.2%
Gas, Water & Multiutilities 7.4% 9.1%
Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 4.1% 3.8%
Life Insurance 3.7% 5.3%
Not Defined 4.5% 5.2%
Media 2.3% 1.0%
Food Producers 5.3% 3.3%
General Retailers 6.5% 8.0%
Oil Equipment, Services & Distribution 1.2% 1.1%
Industrial Engineering 4.8% 3.7%
Support Services 6.7% 4.0%
Fixed Line Telecommunications 3.7% 4.6%
Mining 3.8% 3.9%
Mobile Telecommunications 3.8% 6.2%
Retail REITs 3.3% 3.1%
Oil & Gas Producers 4.5% 4.9%
Nonlife Insurance 2.4% 2.4%
Beverages 6.1% 2.5%
Banks 3.2% 3.0%
Household Goods & Home Construction 11.9% 15.3%
Electricity 3.3% 3.8%

Note: 1...'Value %Total' is the portfolio value of the share as a % of the total portfolio
2...'Div %Total' is the expected dividend of the share based on forecast yield
as a % of the total portfolio expected dividend

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Raptor » March 11th, 2019, 7:52 am

Someone pointed out that LLPD is not defined as Bank sector.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Breelander » March 11th, 2019, 8:21 am

Raptor wrote:Someone pointed out that LLPD is not defined as Bank sector.

Raptor.


Should it be? 'Fixed interest' may be a more appropriate 'sector name' for preference shares (not all are issued by 'banks').

Strictly speaking, 'Not defined' is correct, as they are not included in the Industry Classification Benchmark.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industry_ ... _Benchmark
Last edited by Breelander on March 11th, 2019, 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby uspaul666 » March 11th, 2019, 8:25 am

Well if it comes to that, SLA doesn’t do insurance, according to pyad. (I’ll get my coat)

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Raptor » March 11th, 2019, 8:28 am

Breelander wrote:
Raptor wrote:Someone pointed out that LLPD is not defined as Bank sector.

Raptor.


Should it be? 'Fixed interest' may be a more appropriate 'sector name' for preference shares (not all are issued by 'banks').


The FTSE web-site has no sector or sub-sector defined for these shares. I think it is therefore an area for "user defined". For me it is still financials and banks but I do not own any so will leave it up to the spreadsheet oweners to decide if it needs to be changed.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Breelander » March 11th, 2019, 8:38 am

Advance warning for Kiloran/Itsallaguess

The ICB structure has been revised and will change from 1st July.

ICB Structure and Code Changes – July 1, 2019. For additional details, please contact: info@ftserussell.com

To help clients transition to the new ICB structure, the legacy ICB Universe product will continue to be provided to clients in parallel until 2020...
https://www.ftserussell.com/financial-d ... chmark-icb

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Raptor » March 11th, 2019, 8:45 am

Breelander wrote:Advance warning for Kiloran/Itsallaguess

The ICB structure has been revised and will change from 1st July.

ICB Structure and Code Changes – July 1, 2019. For additional details, please contact: info@ftserussell.com

To help clients transition to the new ICB structure, the legacy ICB Universe product will continue to be provided to clients in parallel until 2020...
https://www.ftserussell.com/financial-d ... chmark-icb


This one caught my eye

20103020 Marijuana Producers SubSector (4) New "4Q2018 Update: New Subsector

Split from RGS 0410856 - Tobacco."

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby mrbrightside » March 11th, 2019, 1:42 pm

This is a marvelous upgrade to the HYPTUSS particularly for someone is is a) very lazy and b) loves pouring over statistics. FWIW here is the breakdown of my SIPP started back in 2003.

                                                                                Value    Div   Fcst 
Share Epic Sector %Total %Total Yield

Admiral Group ADM Nonlife Insurance 2.4% 2.8% 6.4%
Anglo American AAL Mining 6.2% 4.7% 4.2%
AstraZeneca AZN Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 3.3% 2.1% 3.5%
BAE Systems BA Aerospace & Defence 2.5% 2.3% 5.0%
Balfour Beatty BBY Construction & Materials 2.4% 1.0% 2.3%
Barclays BARC Banks 0.2% 0.2% 4.7%
Barratt Developments BDEV Household Goods & Home Construction 2.4% 3.2% 7.5%
BHP Group BHP Mining 3.2% 5.0% 8.7%
BP BP Oil & Gas Producers 4.0% 4.3% 5.9%
British American Tobacco BATS Tobacco 5.3% 6.5% 6.8%
British Land Company BLND Retail REITs 2.0% 1.9% 5.3%
BT Group BT-A Fixed Line Telecommunications 2.2% 2.7% 7.0%
Centrica CNA Gas, Water & Multiutilities 0.7% 1.1% 9.5%
GlaxoSmithKline GSK Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 1.8% 1.8% 5.3%
Greene King GNK Travel & Leisure 3.5% 3.3% 5.2%
Hays HAS Support Services 1.9% 2.0% 6.1%
HSBC Holdings HSBA Banks 3.8% 4.3% 6.3%
Imperial Brands IMB Tobacco 3.5% 4.8% 7.8%
Land Securities Group LAND Industrial & Office REITs 2.8% 2.7% 5.4%
Legal and General Group LGEN Life Insurance 6.0% 7.0% 6.5%
Marston's MARS Travel & Leisure 1.5% 2.1% 7.7%
Morrison (Wm) Supermarkets MRW Food & Drug Retailers 2.6% 1.5% 3.1%
National Grid NG Multiutilities 2.1% 2.1% 5.6%
Next NXT General Retailers 2.6% 1.5% 3.2%
Pearson PSON Media 2.2% 1.0% 2.5%
Rio Tinto RIO Mining 2.8% 2.9% 5.8%
Royal Dutch Shell 'B' RDSB Oil & Gas Producers 3.3% 3.6% 6.2%
Sainsbury (J) SBRY Food & Drug Retailers 1.5% 1.3% 4.8%
Severn Trent SVT Gas, Water & Multiutilities 2.2% 2.0% 4.9%
SSE SSE Electricity 2.1% 2.5% 6.7%
Standard Life Aberdeen plc SLA Life Insurance 1.3% 2.2% 9.4%
Tate and Lyle TATE Food Producers 2.2% 1.7% 4.4%
Tesco TSCO Food & Drug Retailers 1.5% 0.9% 3.2%
TP ICAP TCAP Financial Services 0.7% 0.8% 5.9%
Unilever ULVR Food Producers 4.7% 3.0% 3.5%
United Utilities Group UU Gas, Water & Multiutilities 3.1% 2.7% 4.9%
Vodafone Group VOD Mobile Telecommunications 1.9% 3.1% 9.4%
William Hill WMH Travel & Leisure 1.4% 1.4% 5.6%

Running Yield: 5.57%

Value Div
Sector %Total %Total

Nonlife Insurance 2.4% 2.8%
Mining 12.2% 12.5%
Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 5.2% 3.8%
Aerospace & Defence 2.5% 2.3%
Construction & Materials 2.4% 1.0%
Banks 4.1% 4.5%
Household Goods & Home Construction 2.4% 3.2%
Oil & Gas Producers 7.3% 7.9%
Tobacco 8.8% 11.3%
Retail REITs 2.0% 1.9%
Fixed Line Telecommunications 2.2% 2.7%
Gas, Water & Multiutilities 6.0% 5.9%
Travel & Leisure 6.5% 6.9%
Support Services 1.9% 2.0%
Industrial & Office REITs 2.8% 2.7%
Life Insurance 7.3% 9.2%
Food & Drug Retailers 5.6% 3.6%
Multiutilities 2.1% 2.1%
General Retailers 2.6% 1.5%
Media 2.2% 1.0%
Electricity 2.1% 2.5%
Food Producers 6.9% 4.7%
Financial Services 0.7% 0.8%
Mobile Telecommunications 1.9% 3.1%

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby granretire » March 11th, 2019, 3:20 pm

Digital data sheet shows BHP instead of BLT for BHP Billiton

OK I know what to do, but there may be other name changes that I haven't found.

Thanks for the hyptuss version

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby kiloran » March 11th, 2019, 3:35 pm

granretire wrote:Digital data sheet shows BHP instead of BLT for BHP Billiton

OK I know what to do, but there may be other name changes that I haven't found.

Thanks for the hyptuss version


BHP is correct.
BLT changed to BHP: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=14838

--kiloran

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby granretire » March 11th, 2019, 3:43 pm

Apologies - I'm out-of-date! Will try and pay attention next time ;)

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Raptor » March 11th, 2019, 4:04 pm

Done a vanilla update of my portfolio with the new spreadsheet.

Thanks boys. Will now go back and check my changes to datasheet and vba. All looks good will post my portfolio using this next month.

Did notice duplicates in the datasheet is there a reason for this. Not that it affects me as I do not have any of the shares, TCAP springs to mind.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Itsallaguess » March 11th, 2019, 5:29 pm

Raptor wrote:
Breelander wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Someone pointed out that LLPD is not defined as Bank sector.


Should it be? 'Fixed interest' may be a more appropriate 'sector name' for preference shares (not all are issued by 'banks').


The FTSE web-site has no sector or super-sector defined for these shares. I think it is therefore an area for "user defined". For me it is still financials and banks but I do not own any so will leave it up to the spreadsheet oweners to decide if it needs to be changed.


If anyone would prefer any of the sector or super-sector definitions to be something else, then the tool is actually designed so that users can re-define the default definitions for these fields, as explained in the second post on this thread -

I should also add that the sector / super-sector naming convention is still user-editable on the Digital Look Data Sheet, for anyone that wishes to alter the current allocated sectors for any listed company.

https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=206916#p206881

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby Raptor » March 11th, 2019, 6:54 pm

Have now updated everything and can say I like the changes. All work well. Although I have a request for additional "sorts" on the "overview screen".

Mind you used the "User Guide" to make sure that I had everything copied correctly this time. Did notice:-

15. If you have a customised version of the Digital Look Data Sheet (DLDS)
1. On the old DLDS, select all cells, right-click and select “Clear all contents”
2. On the new DLDS, select all cells, right-click and select “Copy”
3. On the old DLDS, select cell A1, right-click and select “Paste”


Be aware if you do this you will have problems with the new functions of super sectors (I just copied my changes and added the super sectors seperately. Lucky for me only a few).

Raptor.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby spiderbill » March 11th, 2019, 9:27 pm

Usual kudos on the latest version. Very useful new features.

I've run into a small issue which, along with a Microsoft update and a Libre Office update had me puzzled for a while but I've now managed to isolate.

I have a Canadian/US share in my portfolio - Sun Life Canada (SLF) - which I've manually added to the data sheet and have been running satisfactorily for many years and versions. I couldn't retrieve the share price of course, but I just added that manually from my other spreadsheet after HYPTUS had retrieved all the others. (and I had to do a currency conversion first anyway)

However with the new version the very presence of SLF causes an error message when trying to get the prices - saying that there are "problems retrieving prices from Yahoo. Please try again" - but crucially no longer getting the prices of the other shares and wiping out what was in that field for them all.

I can get around it by deleting the SLF ticker entry before pressing the Get Prices button and then adding it back after it's finished, so it's not a deal-breaker, but I thought I'd mention it since it feels likely that the function has been recoded in a way that makes any failure on one share, even when it's the last one in the table, disrupt all the others as well. It may not be possible to avoid this effect but if it is then it might be as well to do so to get better error handling.

Just to be clear that I certainly don't expect an overseas share price retrieval capability - that's beyond the spec of the tool and there would be the currency conversion to contend with. (Eventide's Excel addon does retrieve it but of course it's not involved in doing all the other stuff that HYPTUS does.) I'm just mentioning it in case of other problems possibly cropping up that might be harder to diagnose otherwise.

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby kiloran » March 11th, 2019, 9:56 pm

spiderbill wrote:I have a Canadian/US share in my portfolio - Sun Life Canada (SLF) - which I've manually added to the data sheet and have been running satisfactorily for many years and versions. I couldn't retrieve the share price of course, but I just added that manually from my other spreadsheet after HYPTUS had retrieved all the others. (and I had to do a currency conversion first anyway)

However with the new version the very presence of SLF causes an error message when trying to get the prices - saying that there are "problems retrieving prices from Yahoo. Please try again" - but crucially no longer getting the prices of the other shares and wiping out what was in that field for them all.

Excel or LibreOffice? Which version?

I don't think we made any changes to the price retrieval process, so this does seem a little odd.
Which version of HYPTUSS were you previously using?

--kiloran

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Re: New HYPTUSS versions 11.65 and b-j

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Postby spiderbill » March 11th, 2019, 10:40 pm

kiloran wrote:Excel or LibreOffice? Which version?

I don't think we made any changes to the price retrieval process, so this does seem a little odd.
Which version of HYPTUSS were you previously using?
--kiloran


Hi kiloran

Libre Office, just updated to 6.1.5.2 (x64) from 5.4-ish
Previous HYPTUSS is b-h
Never had a similar occurance through many versions. Got a few contradictory results as I was trying to isolate it so eventually cleared it out and added each share in manually, testing retrieval after each addition. Of course SLF was the last one and that's when it failed.


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