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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby scrumpyjack » August 14th, 2019, 3:59 pm

I bet the BBC fly over a team of 20 people to film Greta arriving by sailing boat in a few weeks :D

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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby Watis » August 14th, 2019, 4:16 pm

scrumpyjack wrote:I bet the BBC fly over a team of 20 people to film Greta arriving by sailing boat in a few weeks :D



I'm not sure why or how Greta has become the poster girl for the climate change industry.

But I do wonder at:

- the carbon cost of the boat she'll be sailing in?

- the cost of any rescue mission, should they run into difficulties. (FTR, I hope they don't!)

- how she will receive her education, since presumably she should be at school during the time of the conference. Were she British, her parents could expect a hefty fine if her absence was not approved.

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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby Snorvey » August 14th, 2019, 8:02 pm

Clitheroekid wrote:
Snorvey wrote:Cauliflower shortages as extreme weather kills crops

Cauliflower prices have soared and some farmers have suffered financial losses after the destruction of their crops.

The shortages were described as "very concerning" by a spokesman for the Brassica Growers Association
.

And even worse....

Other brassica - including cabbage, broccoli and Brussels sprouts - are also in short supply.

Damn you climate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49330210

That's the least bad `bad news' I've ever heard.

I can't stand cauliflower, cabbage, broccoli or Brussels sprouts, so it's a matter of supreme indifference to me :D


Well I can honestly say that particular food group has given me some of my best ever life experiences.

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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby stevensfo » August 14th, 2019, 8:10 pm

Watis wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:I bet the BBC fly over a team of 20 people to film Greta arriving by sailing boat in a few weeks :D



I'm not sure why or how Greta has become the poster girl for the climate change industry.

But I do wonder at:

- the carbon cost of the boat she'll be sailing in?

- the cost of any rescue mission, should they run into difficulties. (FTR, I hope they don't!)

- how she will receive her education, since presumably she should be at school during the time of the conference. Were she British, her parents could expect a hefty fine if her absence was not approved.

Watis


I think you mean English. Our friends in Scotland have never heard of these Orwellian rules or fines and still take their kids out of school for short holidays. The old 10 day a year rule worked and still works very well.

Steve

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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby gryffron » August 14th, 2019, 8:51 pm

Snorvey wrote:some farmers have suffered financial losses after the destruction of their crops.
...
Damn you climate change.

1) This isn't climate change. It is short term weather variations. Which have always happened. And always will.

2) Can anybody ever remember a year farmers were happy? Even when we have perfect growing conditions they sulk because prices are too low.

Gryff

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Re: Thoroughly depressing

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Postby vrdiver » August 14th, 2019, 10:36 pm

Watis wrote: I do wonder at:

- the carbon cost of the boat she'll be sailing in?

- the cost of any rescue mission, should they run into difficulties. (FTR, I hope they don't!)

- how she will receive her education, since presumably she should be at school during the time of the conference. Were she British, her parents could expect a hefty fine if her absence was not approved.

I assume the boat was not especially commissioned just for this trip? It's the cost of the journey, vs flying, that's being symbolised. The trip itself is supposed to be zero carbon emissions. Of course, if they do hit trouble, that will be a bit of a downer for the message, but at least she's trying to send a serious message.

As for her education - a) she's 16 and so no longer compulsory for her to attend school (in Sweden) and b) she's getting an education very few people of her age could even dream of.

If her actions force world leaders to pay more attention to global warming issues, then I applaud her. As I understand it, her message is very clear: to paraphrase - "Global Warming is a problem for my generation, made and mismanaged by your generation; what are you, the experts and adults in the room, going to do about it?"

Mind you, her boat is going to look a bit out of place, parked next to all the Lear jets of the other attendees :roll:

VRD


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