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Re: 50 years old

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Postby tjh290633 » October 8th, 2019, 11:15 pm

Here I am at 86, and my exercise consists of walking to the village and back, to get my papers most mornings. That's about a 2 mile round trip, and occasionaly I do it twice if something is needed.

The time is gradually getting longer. Originally 20 minutes each way, I can still do that going, but the return trip gets slower. The hills are definitely getting steeper. Fortunately I have to stop to chat with the occasional dog walker, or the odd acquaintance I meet along the way. Occasionally I get the mower out, and cutting my lawns requires a lot of work. A lot involves hand pushing, and after the 40 minutes or so needed to complete the job, I am ready for a rehydrating pint, or so. One thing you do have to watch is your blood sugar level, which can get very low before lunch.

The one form of exercise I can recommend is horizontal, with the eyes closed. Watching television can be almost guaranteed to send me off, usually after about 20 minutes of a programme that I wanted to watch. The antidote is to record them, so that you can see what you missed the first, or even second time around. Time for bed. Good night.

TJH

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby scotia » October 8th, 2019, 11:56 pm

tjh290633 wrote:Watching television can be almost guaranteed to send me off, usually after about 20 minutes of a programme that I wanted to watch. The antidote is to record them, so that you can see what you missed the first, or even second time around. Time for bed. Good night.
TJH

I suffer from the same problem - but I hadn't thought about the antidote of pressing the record button. :)

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby AsleepInYorkshire » October 9th, 2019, 12:27 am

tjh290633 wrote:Here I am at 86, and my exercise consists of walking to the village and back, to get my papers most mornings. That's about a 2 mile round trip, and occasionaly I do it twice if something is needed.

The time is gradually getting longer. Originally 20 minutes each way, I can still do that going, but the return trip gets slower. The hills are definitely getting steeper. Fortunately I have to stop to chat with the occasional dog walker, or the odd acquaintance I meet along the way. Occasionally I get the mower out, and cutting my lawns requires a lot of work. A lot involves hand pushing, and after the 40 minutes or so needed to complete the job, I am ready for a rehydrating pint, or so. One thing you do have to watch is your blood sugar level, which can get very low before lunch.

The one form of exercise I can recommend is horizontal, with the eyes closed. Watching television can be almost guaranteed to send me off, usually after about 20 minutes of a programme that I wanted to watch. The antidote is to record them, so that you can see what you missed the first, or even second time around. Time for bed. Good night.

TJH

Hi,

It's me. AiY.

I'm 57. I was inspired by you comments. Genuinely. I was also inspired by the way you seem to have integrated and dovetailed with modern technology. Respect.

Would you mind if I over-thought some of your comments please?

I think you may benefit from some of the following (I take all and to hell with it)

  1. Cod liver oil (daily)
  2. Vitamin D3(daily)
  3. Vitamin b12 (sublingually daily)
  4. Vitamin B6 (daily)
  5. Check with your GP that you haven't got a little bit of OSA - you shouldn't have(Obstructive Sleep Apnea)
  6. Check for diabetes

Take care - hope I haven't spoken out of place and you receive my comments in the gracious way they were intended (of course for a Yorkshireman :) )
AiY

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby tjh290633 » October 9th, 2019, 8:27 am

Thanks, AiY. The only supplement I take is Glucosamine, to counteract arthritis, although I think that arthritis is starting to get the upper hand.

Type 2 diabetes seems to be de rigeur these days. Mine is reasonably under control. Our practice nurses are very efficient. My other problem is asthma, which developed in my 60s. I attributed that to NOX on the motorways when I was doing about 30,000 miles a year. Various inhalers help control it, but my peak flow readings fall gradually year on year.

What is essential is to keep active so that all the joints move freely. That daily walk helps a lot.

TJH

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby brightncheerful » October 9th, 2019, 11:30 am

Occasionally I get the mower out, and cutting my lawns requires a lot of work.


On BBC R2 Tony Blackburn Sounds of the 60s, II heard that if you pour a bottle of gin onto the grass then it will grow half cut.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby scotia » October 9th, 2019, 11:48 am

brightncheerful wrote:
Occasionally I get the mower out, and cutting my lawns requires a lot of work.


On BBC R2 Tony Blackburn Sounds of the 60s, II heard that if you pour a bottle of gin onto the grass then it will grow half cut.

While coating our roof tiles, the workman spilled some of his coating fluid on the lawn, and that area no longer needs cutting. If you want the recipe for a permanently bald lawn, I'll put you in touch with the perpetrator.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby brightncheerful » October 9th, 2019, 11:56 am

Leothebear wrote:Come off the couch slowly mate. All these sanctimonious advisors don't mention the knee and other injuries acquired by sudden exercise. I find walking swiftly uphill (at first exhausting) is a good way to slide into some kind of shape. But I for one don't get aroused by being knackered. Good luck. LTB


As yet another visitor to our badminton club fell over during a game of doubles and damaged his Achilles heel, I used the opportunity to reiterate my maxim: 'badminton takes you out one-by-one'. Whilst waiting for an ambulance to arrive, my playing partner, who happens to be a vet, attended to the visitor, making sure he was positioned correctly for the pain. As we were ahead in the score, we were miffed that the game ended abruptly. But after vet considered whether to shoot the visitor and have done with it, I suggested a gesture of goodwill in the hope that the visitor wouldn't be deterred from coming to badminton again.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby panamagold » October 9th, 2019, 1:41 pm

Howyoudoin wrote:Apparently, if you promise your family and friends that you will do the Couch to 5K by the end of the year, it’s binding.

Seeing as I’ve made that promise, can anyone confirm? I would especially like to hear from those who say ‘No’.

Thanks,

HYD


Cease with the narcissistic appearance hang-up.
Park your oversize fat ass on the couch.
Continue to stuff your face with the the fish and chips from your local shop.
Tell the family to 'suck it up'.... or 'пососи'.

Job done. Easy.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » October 9th, 2019, 1:53 pm

I do about 12.5k 3x per week. But if you are interested in running, I would recommend that you are cautious with your choice of footwear and your running technique.

Landing with an extended straight legs will bugg3r up your knees, hips and ankles. This is especially true for the 50+s. I've run off and on since my early 20s, but running "the wrong way" with the "wrong footwear" for the first 2 decades really took a toll on the knees. When I was 45 years old, I'd pretty much stopped. But a colleague at work introduced me to the minimalist footwear and running style, and I gradually re learnt and I'm now probably better than I was in my 20s.

The way I got to doing the distance I do now, was by obeying a simple rule of gradually increasing my running distance by about 5%-10% each run, and always having 2-4 days break between runs, and with a good style just maintaining the regime.

Matt

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby UncleEbenezer » October 9th, 2019, 2:11 pm

panamagold wrote:Job done. Easy.

Are you suggesting he take up professional sport?

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby vrdiver » October 9th, 2019, 2:11 pm

TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:I do about 12.5k 3x per week.

... a colleague at work introduced me to the minimalist footwear and running style...

The way I got to doing the distance I do now, was by obeying a simple rule of gradually increasing my running distance by about 5%-10% each run, and always having 2-4 days break between runs, and with a good style just maintaining the regime.

Interesting, as I have also run on-and-off since school days (and am now looking to start up again after some unrelated injuries).

If you can share any more info on footwear I'd like to know more, as knees especially are a bit iffy.

I did however struggle with running 3x a week whilst always having 2-4 days off between runs! A sample schedule might make your actual regime clearer ;)

VRD

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » October 9th, 2019, 2:35 pm

vrdiver wrote:
TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:I do about 12.5k 3x per week.

... a colleague at work introduced me to the minimalist footwear and running style...

The way I got to doing the distance I do now, was by obeying a simple rule of gradually increasing my running distance by about 5%-10% each run, and always having 2-4 days break between runs, and with a good style just maintaining the regime.

Interesting, as I have also run on-and-off since school days (and am now looking to start up again after some unrelated injuries).

If you can share any more info on footwear I'd like to know more, as knees especially are a bit iffy.

I did however struggle with running 3x a week whilst always having 2-4 days off between runs! A sample schedule might make your actual regime clearer ;)

VRD

Will do. Shall I PM you or create a thread in the "Health and Wellbeing" board? I'm ok with doing either.

Matt

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby vrdiver » October 9th, 2019, 3:06 pm

TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:
vrdiver wrote:
TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:I do about 12.5k 3x per week.

... a colleague at work introduced me to the minimalist footwear and running style...

The way I got to doing the distance I do now, was by obeying a simple rule of gradually increasing my running distance by about 5%-10% each run, and always having 2-4 days break between runs, and with a good style just maintaining the regime.

Interesting, as I have also run on-and-off since school days (and am now looking to start up again after some unrelated injuries).

If you can share any more info on footwear I'd like to know more, as knees especially are a bit iffy.

I did however struggle with running 3x a week whilst always having 2-4 days off between runs! A sample schedule might make your actual regime clearer ;)

VRD

Will do. Shall I PM you or create a thread in the "Health and Wellbeing" board? I'm ok with doing either.

Matt

I've started a new thread as you've suggested: viewtopic.php?f=86&t=19852#p256796

looking forward to any and all advice!

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » October 9th, 2019, 6:22 pm

vrdiver wrote:
TheMotorcycleBoy wrote:
vrdiver wrote:Interesting, as I have also run on-and-off since school days (and am now looking to start up again after some unrelated injuries).

If you can share any more info on footwear I'd like to know more, as knees especially are a bit iffy.

I did however struggle with running 3x a week whilst always having 2-4 days off between runs! A sample schedule might make your actual regime clearer ;)

VRD

Will do. Shall I PM you or create a thread in the "Health and Wellbeing" board? I'm ok with doing either.

Matt

I've started a new thread as you've suggested: viewtopic.php?f=86&t=19852#p256796

looking forward to any and all advice!

I'm in the middle of writing somewhat of an essay....over on that thread! :lol:

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby johnhemming » October 9th, 2019, 6:36 pm

tjh290633 wrote: The only supplement I take is Glucosamine, to counteract arthritis, although I think that arthritis is starting to get the upper hand.


I take a number of supplements although I vary them every so often. One is boron 3mg to improve joints also fishoil which also assists with inflammation of joints. I know the fish oil has that effect as a week or do after I stop taking it I get joint aches which generally I dont have. That goes away when I restart the fish oil.

I am also a fan of vitamin d3 and magnesium malate and citrate although I have stopped taking magnesium now for a few weeks.

Others are more general vitamins v2000 as well as specialist b vitamins, but only infrequently, k3, n acetyl cisteine, taurine, tryptophan, 5htp, melatonin, and glutathione all of which have differing effects. I think I am healthier in various ways as a result.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby kiloran » October 9th, 2019, 7:46 pm

johnhemming wrote:I take a number of supplements although I vary them every so often. One is boron 3mg to improve joints also fishoil which also assists with inflammation of joints. I know the fish oil has that effect as a week or do after I stop taking it I get joint aches which generally I dont have. That goes away when I restart the fish oil.

I am also a fan of vitamin d3 and magnesium malate and citrate although I have stopped taking magnesium now for a few weeks.

Others are more general vitamins v2000 as well as specialist b vitamins, but only infrequently, k3, n acetyl cisteine, taurine, tryptophan, 5htp, melatonin, and glutathione all of which have differing effects. I think I am healthier in various ways as a result.

Apologies if I'm drifting too far off the original topic, but I must confess to wondering why people take all these supplements. My wife takes a whole bunch of them, and my eyes just glaze over when I walk into Holland and Barretts to buy what I am instructed. Wall-to-wall Vitamin A, B, C, D, X, Y, Z, etc. I take no supplements (apart from the odd Ardbeg, Springbank, etc).

Unless a medical analysis shows a specific deficiency, how do you know you need all these extra pills and potions?

--kiloran

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby vrdiver » October 9th, 2019, 7:50 pm

A couple of years ago I was talking to my GP about vitamin supplements. She mentioned that in certain cases, taking vitamin or minerals outside of their natural food sources was being studied as there appeared to be evidence of negative effects. The hypothesis was that we have evolved to digest/process key chemicals as a cocktail, with the digestion of the other chemicals found alongside the vitamin playing a subtle role in the way our body reacts. In the absence of the vitamin's natural co-compounds, our metabolic routing has different outcomes.

The advice was hardly rocket science; aim for a balanced diet that doesn't leave you needing regular supplements, but if you do need them, don't overdose on them and try to figure out how to reduce the need through diet.

It was one of those chats you have whilst waiting for the computer results etc. so not an in-depth foray into the subject, but it did stick in my mind.

VRD

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby johnhemming » October 9th, 2019, 8:00 pm

The "how do you know" question is the key one. There are some good research papers (not the marketing rubbish on promotional websites) that help. I start by keeping detailed records of my blood pressure on going to bed and waking up in the morning and also I measure my sleep using a fit bit (which is not perfect, but it gives a system of measurement).

Using this I have managed to materially improve my sleep patterns and because I keep records of what happens when I take some of the supplements and what happens when I don't I can be certain about how they affect me.

That does not, of course, mean that the same result would necessarily occur for anyone else.

There is a solid argument that taking a cocktail of vitamins every day is not as helpful as taking them intermittently say twice a week.

Because my priority has been improving sleep that is what I tend to measure things against. I don't really want to take things like anti histamine type sleeping pills as they have negative side effects and are not working with my bodies systems to make them work better, but sort of hitting the systems with a hammer.

I have massively reduced my alcohol intake and am currently off caffeine, but my records indicate that the supplements have a positive effect.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby scotia » October 9th, 2019, 9:00 pm

I'm 75 and healthy and have no sleeping problems. I don't take vitamins. My wife (73) takes fish oil - and she maintains it eases her joints. So far I don't have joint problems - apart from an intermittently troublesome big toe. My wife was told at an eye examination about a year ago that she would benefit from macula supplements - so she takes macushield. I suppose if I felt under par, I might be tempted to consider supplements, but my GP would probably be my first port of call to checkout there wasn't something that required a more serious intervention.
Now that the trout fishing season has ended, and the boats will be taken off the loch this weekend, I was back out on the (electrically assisted) bike this afternoon. My wife walks regularly with groups of female friends, but since most of their husbands have expired, I prefer solitary cycling (and rowing) to solitary walking.

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Re: 50 years old

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Postby TheMotorcycleBoy » October 10th, 2019, 10:29 am

johnhemming wrote:Using this I have managed to materially improve my sleep patterns and because I keep records of what happens when I take some of the supplements and what happens when I don't I can be certain about how they affect me.

That does not, of course, mean that the same result would necessarily occur for anyone else.

There is a solid argument that taking a cocktail of vitamins every day is not as helpful as taking them intermittently say twice a week.

Because my priority has been improving sleep that is what I tend to measure things against. I don't really want to take things like anti histamine type sleeping pills as they have negative side effects and are not working with my bodies systems to make them work better, but sort of hitting the systems with a hammer.

Must admit that I sometimes/used to suffer with poor sleep. I do sometimes take the odd anti-histamine (hay fever) pill out of the grass season, but usually go with out.

FWIW I'm teetotal, and drink v. little caffeine, and zero added salt. Wife and I make our coffee in regular coffee thing that takes triangular filter paper. We load it with 3/4 decaff coffee and 1/4 of french/italian regular coffee to add flavour (just regular tescos stuff).

I've discovered that my main problem with sleep is an overactive mind. My cure is "mindful meditation". Every single night in bed I do between 10-40 minutes mindful/breath-exercise/transcendental meditation. The point is it means my mind is empty when I switch off light. Really really helps and demonstrably lowers BP and HR. Also I now sleep alone too, as it's just easier to maintain correct temp. and position, to me it's just common sense. Finally if I ever stir mid sleep period, I try to only go to the bog once, and when I stir I think about our rose bed in the garden, not any worry or real life issue.

Matt


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