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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby PhaseThree » April 22nd, 2021, 1:36 pm

Robbie Williams "She's The one"

Original "World Party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJL23YDmS4

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 1:57 pm

PhaseThree wrote:Robbie Williams "She's The one"

Original "World Party"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrJL23YDmS4


THAT'S a great one...
That's one I managed to forget about even though I had the original album...
..in my defence the wife recently found two world party albums in her collection when clearing out the MILs house; and had previously claimed to have never heard of them at all, after I had been belting out my backpackers version of "ship of fools" at a BBQ

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:02 pm

Mike4 wrote:
servodude wrote:Following hot on the heels of the last cover versions thread...here's another one.

Watching "the Serpent" on Netflix last night episode7 started with John Kongos - He's Gonna Step On You Again

It took me a moment to realise what was going on - and in my shame I had thought that it was a Happy Mondays original

I can't be the only one...
...and this can't be the only song I'm misattributing

suggestions for others?

-sd


Good idea and more interesting than 'better than the original'.

A couple spring to mind. friend in her 40s firmly believed I was making it up when I insisted Man who sold the World by Nirvana was a Bowie original, and Killing me softly by The Fugees was a hit 20 years previously by Roberta Flack, who I've just discovered, also didn't write it!


I know it's not quite the same but..

"This is Jamiroquai's new one!" was something I overheard at Fury Murray's in Glasgow... about 20 seconds after "superstition" by Stevie Wonder had started. Didnae correct the plampf; he's probably still a plampf.

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » April 22nd, 2021, 2:18 pm

NotSure wrote:
gvonge wrote:It's an occupational hazard for Blues artists


Leadbelly, where did you sleep last night, predates even Leadbelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsfcUZBMSSg&ab_channel=todd131981

I'll now be listening to old, old blues for the rest of today!

Very difficult to track down the true origins of blues songs - there was a lot of 'borrowing' - and some bluesmen even appeared as someone else !
Hence the vagueness around Robert Johnson's life and times

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby chas49 » April 22nd, 2021, 2:21 pm

NotSure wrote:
AleisterCrowley wrote:Also;
The Tide is High - Blondie
(original by The Paragons)


Another Blondie one - hanging on the telephone, original (The Nerves) here: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/16/fca-launches-proceedings-against-natwest-over-alleged-money-laundering


That probably isn't the link you meant to post :)

This might be the one though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emy5mA8Ixtc

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:28 pm



Indeed! Great suggestions!
The Clash more than just about any other band did this "taking it and making it theirs" thing for me.
"I fought the law" being the standout choice... but it's really surprising to look back at their catalogue and see just how many songs they have done in what I'd consider to be the "definitive" version.... as compared to say "the Who"'s excellent covers which sound like "the Who playing other people's stuff"
I guess part of that is choosing what to cover

"Piece of my heart" is a really interesting choice!
To me it's one of those songs that became "a standard" pretty much immediately; almost public domain from the off
- in much the same way as "the first cut is the deepest" or "out of time"
- i can't really pick "an original" out of the various versions; all written, passed about and variously performed in a short period of time

Really great choices...
...but not the jaw dropping realization that "Beaver Patrol" wasn't by Pop Will Eat Itself but rather the The Wilde Knights (which happened to me at a Rockabilly/HotRod convention a few years back - it's ok I had a Gretsch by then)

- sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:29 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:Hence the vagueness around Robert Johnson's life and times


But we're pretty sure about the intersection of Highway 49 and Route 66 ;)

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby Mike4 » April 22nd, 2021, 2:32 pm

Careering off at a tangent, why does this thread now have a question mark symbol on it in the "New Posts" listing?

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:34 pm

NotSure wrote:
AleisterCrowley wrote:Also;
The Tide is High - Blondie
(original by The Paragons)


Another Blondie one - hanging on the telephone, original (The Nerves)


I had no idea!
I was in the CBGB a couple of weeks before it shut at a fundraiser to stop it from closing... and now I know that's a cover!
Thanks! I'm going to try this one on out on my brother in law (who's probably still got the Debbie Harry posters up)

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:40 pm

Mike4 wrote:Careering off at a tangent, why does this thread now have a question mark symbol on it in the "New Posts" listing?


Spruiking for business?
Actually I might have chosen a glyph when I posted

And apparently the "The Flying Pickets" weren't the original performers of "Only You" :shock: .

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby Mike4 » April 22nd, 2021, 2:54 pm

servodude wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Careering off at a tangent, why does this thread now have a question mark symbol on it in the "New Posts" listing?


Spruiking for business?
Actually I might have chosen a glyph when I posted

And apparently the "The Flying Pickets" weren't the original performers of "Only You" :shock: .

-sd


Or maybe the thread has recently been glarded.

Flying Pickets? Didn't they first find fame by winning on "Opportunity Knocks", or one of them early telly talent contest programmes?

Now there's a subject for another music thread. Famous bands/musicians who got started on TV talent shows!

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 2:59 pm

Mike4 wrote:
servodude wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Careering off at a tangent, why does this thread now have a question mark symbol on it in the "New Posts" listing?


Spruiking for business?
Actually I might have chosen a glyph when I posted

And apparently the "The Flying Pickets" weren't the original performers of "Only You" :shock: .

-sd


Or maybe the thread has recently been glarded.

Flying Pickets? Didn't they first find fame by winning on "Opportunity Knocks", or one of them early telly talent contest programmes?

Now there's a subject for another music thread. Famous bands/musicians who got started on TV talent shows!

...or songs like Volare

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 3:09 pm

redsturgeon wrote:This Flight Tonight

Nazareth

Although it many years since I learned of the true original.

John


Wow! I've just remembered seeing Nazareth at the Videodrome in Glasgow - what a dive that was... down by the Anderston Bus station
I must have been just turned 15
- my dad picked me up after it (we lived about 12 miles away)
I confessed to having "a couple" of drinks when I got in the car and he didn't care
- he was just glad to get away from the ladies that had kept knocking on his window :shock:
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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » April 22nd, 2021, 3:10 pm

Mike4 wrote:
servodude wrote:
Mike4 wrote:Careering off at a tangent, why does this thread now have a question mark symbol on it in the "New Posts" listing?


Spruiking for business?
Actually I might have chosen a glyph when I posted

And apparently the "The Flying Pickets" weren't the original performers of "Only You" :shock: .

-sd


Or maybe the thread has recently been glarded.

Flying Pickets? Didn't they first find fame by winning on "Opportunity Knocks", or one of them early telly talent contest programmes?

Now there's a subject for another music thread. Famous bands/musicians who got started on TV talent shows!


Sheena Easton (OK reality show, not talent show)
and (arguably) ABBA

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby servodude » April 22nd, 2021, 3:17 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:
Sheena Easton (OK reality show, not talent show)
and (arguably) ABBA


No argument on either account

I saw Sheena not perform at the big day out in Glasgow
- which is probably not unusual given the crowd size there that day
- it was a perfect show for the situation, she couldn't have been any better; if they'd let her sing she'd have ruined it

-sd

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby Mike4 » April 22nd, 2021, 3:28 pm

servodude wrote:
AleisterCrowley wrote:
Sheena Easton (OK reality show, not talent show)
and (arguably) ABBA


No argument on either account

I saw Sheena not perform at the big day out in Glasgow
- which is probably not unusual given the crowd size there that day
- it was a perfect show for the situation, she couldn't have been any better; if they'd let her sing she'd have ruined it

-sd


And there's another subject! Bands you came within an ace of seeing but didn't. I have two. Went on the train aged about 15 to see Uriah Heep at Tolworth Bowl. Got there, queued up for ages to get in, got to the ticket office and discovered I'd lost my one pound note I'd taken to fund the evening. So had to just go home again. Huh.

Second one was maybe 15 years ago Smashing Pumpkins headlining at Reading, my companion got so utterly paralytic with alcohol I had to half carry her the half a mile back to the boat (we used to moor outside the festival site for the three days) and make sure she was ok. By the time I got back into the festival site, they'd finished their (very short) set. Huh.

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby AleisterCrowley » April 22nd, 2021, 4:03 pm

AC/DC at Knebworth or MK bowl(?) ...almost bought a ticket but got in argument about added extras on ticket price and slammed phone down
(Doh! Think it was The Offspring supporting too)

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby kiloran » April 22nd, 2021, 5:13 pm

"Alabama Song" on the first album by The Doors in 1967.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtEkZIvMAg
Obviously written by The Doors? Well, no, it comes from a very unlikely source.

According to Wikipedia,".....written by Bertolt Brecht and translated from German by his close collaborator Elisabeth Hauptmann in 1925 and set to music by Kurt Weill for the 1927 play Little Mahagonny. It was reused for the 1930 opera Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVHtRk8a1nc

Ludicrous. I don't like opera!

--kiloran

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby terminal7 » April 22nd, 2021, 6:02 pm

Chasing Sheep is Best Left to Shepherds composed by Michael Nyman for the Greenaway film the Draughtsman's Contract is overtly 'based' on the Prelude to Act III, Scene 2 of Purcell’s opera, King Arthur. To this uneducated ear it sounds like a speeded up version of the original.

T7

ok - just trying to lift the tone a bit

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Re: Cover versions you didn't realise were..

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » April 22nd, 2021, 7:39 pm

Mike4 wrote:[Famous bands/musicians who got started on TV talent shows!


Joss Stone

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