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Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 24th, 2021, 5:31 pm

Blunder?

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby redsturgeon » September 24th, 2021, 6:57 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:Blunder?

yup

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby Clitheroekid » September 24th, 2021, 7:47 pm

Well done to those who got it.

My own version was, of course, very similar - A corrupt, cropped and crippled cat called Krypton crept in a crypt and crapped.

Though dropping the `cropped' gives it a better metre: A corrupt, crippled cat called Krypton crept in a crypt and crapped.

All good fun! :D

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby Hallucigenia » September 24th, 2021, 8:14 pm

Or :
Krypton the cropped and crippled cat, crept into a corrupted crypt and crapped.

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby jfgw » September 24th, 2021, 8:38 pm

"Cropped" could refer to the tail.

How about,

Krypton, the corrupt, crippled, concisely coiffured kitty, covertly crept into the crypt and crapped.


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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby jfgw » September 26th, 2021, 11:16 pm

Clitheroekid wrote:The puzzle is effectively a reverse engineering of a sentence that I created for my own amusement. I'll post it tomorrow evening (if I remember!)...

Pssst...


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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby dionaeamuscipula » September 27th, 2021, 9:27 am

jfgw wrote:
Clitheroekid wrote:The puzzle is effectively a reverse engineering of a sentence that I created for my own amusement. I'll post it tomorrow evening (if I remember!)...

Pssst...


Julian F. G. W.


Erm....look back three messages.....

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Postby jfgw » September 27th, 2021, 9:35 am

dionaeamuscipula wrote:Erm....look back three messages.....

Ah, how did I miss it?


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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby stewamax » September 27th, 2021, 10:30 am

Clitheroekid wrote:...dropping the `cropped' gives it a better metre: A corrupt, crippled cat called Krypton crept in a crypt and crapped.

Hmm... How about "Ye corrupt, crippled cat yclept Krypton crept in yon crypt and crapped" (an alliteration scheme close to the Welsh 'cynghanedd draws')

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby servodude » September 27th, 2021, 11:17 am

stewamax wrote:
Clitheroekid wrote:...dropping the `cropped' gives it a better metre: A corrupt, crippled cat called Krypton crept in a crypt and crapped.

Hmm... How about "Ye corrupt, crippled cat yclept Krypton crept in yon crypt and crapped" (an alliteration scheme close to the Welsh 'cynghanedd draws')


Or take a leaf from Latin with the ablative absolute form ...

Creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped

Crazy!
;)

-sd

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby stewamax » September 27th, 2021, 12:58 pm

servodude wrote:Or take a leaf from Latin with the ablative absolute form ...
Creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped

Very good - and it avoids needing any definite or indefinite articles

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby tjh290633 » September 27th, 2021, 4:51 pm

servodude wrote:Or take a leaf from Latin with the ablative absolute form ...

Creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped

I was always taught that the ablative absolute format was, for example:

"The cat, having crept into the crypt, etc..."

Maybe my Latin master was old-fashioned. I don't have a copy of Kennedy's "A shorter Latin Primer" to hand.

TJH

P.S. The title of mine had been amended by a former user to "A Shortbread Eating Primer".

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby stewamax » September 27th, 2021, 8:55 pm

For some unaccountable reason, flogging by my Latin master didn't improve my memory, but my distant recollection is that in the ablative absolute, the real or implied subject (noun) that precedes the participle must not be the same person or thing as is the subject of the following clause.
if I am right, the 'Creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped' is not strictly ablative absolute since when the implied words are added, its would read:
"With Krypton creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped" that would break the rule.

But servodude's post is nevertheless good alliterative one!

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby servodude » September 27th, 2021, 11:45 pm

stewamax wrote:my distant recollection is that in the ablative absolute, the real or implied subject (noun) that precedes the participle must not be the same person or thing as is the subject of the following clause.


Mea culpa, that's true!
Dunno what I was thinking
- it's just "starting a sentence with an adverbial clause"


- sd

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Re: Apt alliteration's artful aid

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Postby SimonS » September 28th, 2021, 5:09 pm

stewamax wrote:
servodude wrote:Or take a leaf from Latin with the ablative absolute form ...
Creeping crypt-wards, corrupt cropped crippled Krypton crapped

Very good - and it avoids needing any definite or indefinite articles


A Jedi poet might:
"Krypton,crept on,crypt in, crapped on"


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