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Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby AleisterCrowley » June 26th, 2018, 11:43 am

I read a comment recently along the lines of;

"In many jobs these days, 'leave' just means you get the chance to put off doing your work until a later date"

I've been off since Thursday and still trying to catch up with Friday's work :( I may wander off and shoot myself in the mouth*

Ah well, it's nice and sunny

AC


*with a water pistol, loaded with beer

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby UncleEbenezer » June 26th, 2018, 11:57 am

If it was ever otherwise, it's a sign you've been the useless one being carried by your colleagues.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby AleisterCrowley » June 26th, 2018, 12:35 pm

I pride myself on being mostly useless. I'm sure they can (and will) manage without me...

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby DiamondEcho » July 10th, 2018, 2:52 pm

Furlough strikes me as very American-English, is it in use in the UK these days? Perhaps another word 'we invented' and exported to the US, forgot about and then recently re-imported via globalist corporate-speak. I had to look it up to learn the differentiation vs holiday or leave.
Holiday is fine, but these days I suspect the word is more associated with flying off somewhere, rather than leave, which would cover things like staying at home 'waiting 3 days' to have a new thieving utility metering system installed, or similar... :lol:

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby Watis » July 10th, 2018, 3:11 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:I pride myself on being mostly useless. I'm sure they can (and will) manage without me...


Wally would be proud of you, if he could be bothered.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby Watis » July 10th, 2018, 3:15 pm

DiamondEcho wrote:Furlough strikes me as very American-English, is it in use in the UK these days? Perhaps another word 'we invented' and exported to the US, forgot about and then recently re-imported via globalist corporate-speak. I had to look it up to learn the differentiation vs holiday or leave.
Holiday is fine, but these days I suspect the word is more associated with flying off somewhere, rather than leave, which would cover things like staying at home 'waiting 3 days' to have a new thieving utility metering system installed, or similar... :lol:




For me, 'furlough' sits somewhere between 'holiday' and 'sabbatical'.

A quick check of some online definitions suggests I've got this about right. A furlough is at the behest of the employer whereas a sabbatical is more likely to be requested by the employee.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby nmdhqbc » July 10th, 2018, 3:17 pm

This is one reason I quit my 'proper' jobs and went to work in warehouses lugging boxes around about 10 years ago. Properly switch off every night / holiday.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby AleisterCrowley » July 10th, 2018, 3:54 pm

Watis wrote:
DiamondEcho wrote:Furlough strikes me as very American-English, is it in use in the UK these days? Perhaps another word 'we invented' and exported to the US, forgot about and then recently re-imported via globalist corporate-speak. I had to look it up to learn the differentiation vs holiday or leave.
Holiday is fine, but these days I suspect the word is more associated with flying off somewhere, rather than leave, which would cover things like staying at home 'waiting 3 days' to have a new thieving utility metering system installed, or similar... :lol:




For me, 'furlough' sits somewhere between 'holiday' and 'sabbatical'.

A quick check of some online definitions suggests I've got this about right. A furlough is at the behest of the employer whereas a sabbatical is more likely to be requested by the employee.

Watis

'Furlough' is used in several of Colin Dexter's Morse books rather than leave (when referring to Morse)

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby Watis » July 10th, 2018, 3:58 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:
Watis wrote:
DiamondEcho wrote:Furlough strikes me as very American-English, is it in use in the UK these days? Perhaps another word 'we invented' and exported to the US, forgot about and then recently re-imported via globalist corporate-speak. I had to look it up to learn the differentiation vs holiday or leave.
Holiday is fine, but these days I suspect the word is more associated with flying off somewhere, rather than leave, which would cover things like staying at home 'waiting 3 days' to have a new thieving utility metering system installed, or similar... :lol:




For me, 'furlough' sits somewhere between 'holiday' and 'sabbatical'.

A quick check of some online definitions suggests I've got this about right. A furlough is at the behest of the employer whereas a sabbatical is more likely to be requested by the employee.

Watis

'Furlough' is used in several of Colin Dexter's Morse books rather than leave (when referring to Morse)


I've not read the books but have watched many of the TV episodes.

Two facts stood out for me:

- Morse gets suspended, or furloughed, every episode.

- Morse does his best work when suspended!

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby AleisterCrowley » July 10th, 2018, 4:10 pm

He does take furlough, rather than it being effectively suspended on full pay
random snippet;
'You look tired, you know, Morse. I think you ought to put in for a fortnight's furlough now this is over.' 'Well, not quite over, sir.' Morse walked slowly back to his office"

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby tjh290633 » July 10th, 2018, 4:21 pm

Isn't furlough an old army term?

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby Slarti » July 10th, 2018, 4:53 pm

tjh290633 wrote:Isn't furlough an old army term?

TJH


And RAF because my Dad always said he got a 3 day furlough, after promotion to leading aircraftsman, to go and marry my Mam in 1942.
She didn't see him again until he was demobbed in 1945.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby tjh290633 » July 10th, 2018, 4:57 pm

Slarti wrote:
tjh290633 wrote:Isn't furlough an old army term?

TJH


And RAF because my Dad always said he got a 3 day furlough, after promotion to leading aircraftsman, to go and marry my Mam in 1942.
She didn't see him again until he was demobbed in 1945.

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In my day you got 36 hour, 48 hour or 72 hour passes, usually over the weekend. A comrade who hailed from Helmsdale got an extra day at each end,because he could only get to Perth in one day.

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Re: Leave/holiday/furlough

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Postby Slarti » July 10th, 2018, 5:08 pm

tjh290633 wrote:In my day you got 36 hour, 48 hour or 72 hour passes, usually over the weekend. A comrade who hailed from Helmsdale got an extra day at each end,because he could only get to Perth in one day.


He used to say that it took over 24 hours to get from Lincolnshire to Newcastle Central station, but only 10 hours going back as he was able to get on a troop train for much of the journey.

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