Is Latte getting milkier?

[zico]

I know latte is just a load of frothy milk with a shot or two of coffee thrown in, but in the last week, I've had 2 lattes in 2 different location which were basically hot milk with a bit of coffee colouring. Even after I went back and asked for another coffee shot, they were still quite mild. It's an obvious way to cut costs.

Is it just me, or is this happening more widely?

[bungeejumper]

Yes. Absolutely no question about it.

It's not the only thing, either. Just the other night, I noticed that the moon was less bright than the way I remembered it. I tell you. somebody out there has turned down the wattage, presumably to save on the electricity bill. And now they're telling me that the Duke of Edinburgh doesn't even have a chauffeur any more?

Disgraceful penny-pinching. I blame Brexit, personally. Or maybe Trump. Then again, maybe it's all a conspiracy by the Chinese?

BJ

[jackdaww]

latte , capuccinos etc much the same - you pay MORE cash for LESS coffee.

they all get away with it of course.

milky coffee should be CHEAPER.

[Mike88]

latte , capuccinos etc much the same - you pay MORE cash for LESS coffee.

they all get away with it of course.

milky coffee should be CHEAPER.

My local Costa barrista tells me one shot of coffee for a latte and two for a capuccino. All too milky for me so have a flat white.

[UncleEbenezer]

Latte is Italian for milk. A direct translation.

Italians (and some of us influenced by time in Italy) would only ever drink milky coffee in the mornings. Ideal with cornetto (croissant). After lunch or in the evening, it's a shot of espresso.

Oh, and "americano" is Italian for Instant Coffee.

[richfool]

I often find latte too strong for my preference, and have to ask for a little more milk. That is probably just me, preferring it mild and wanting to keep my caffeine intake down.

I know some shops give 1 shot and some 2 shots of coffee, depending on the cup size.

[bungeejumper]

I need half a pint of super-strong coffee, comprising maybe 25% frothed milk, to get my brain started in the morning. My old Krups machine has been doing the business for 30 years, and it's still a better brew than the local Costa Fortune can offer, let alone Starcruds.

So it's probably a good job that breakfast time is usually my only coffee of the day. Besides, they won't let me into Caffe Nero in my dressing gown any more.

BJ

[malkymoo]

Yes. Absolutely no question about it.

It's not the only thing, either. Just the other night, I noticed that the moon was less bright than the way I remembered it. I tell you. somebody out there has turned down the wattage, presumably to save on the electricity bill. And now they're telling me that the Duke of Edinburgh doesn't even have a chauffeur any more?

My grandmother used to complain that the salt was not as salty as it used to be.

[Lootman]

My local Costa barrista tells me one shot of coffee for a latte and two for a capuccino. All too milky for me so have a flat white.

Even a flat white is too milky for me although I will drink it if I have to.

Try a macchiato instead. Perfect for those who want a little milk in their coffee rather than a little coffee in their milk. I first had one in Trieste when you couldn't get them in England, and was instantly hooked. Now thankfully they are everywhere, except Starbucks but I never go there anyway.

[Rhyd6]

Not being at my brightest this afternoon my first thought when I read the subject matter was "unusual name for a cow".
Oops!

R6

[gryffron]

latte , capuccinos etc much the same - you pay MORE cash for LESS coffee.
milky coffee should be CHEAPER.

Yeah! Cos when you're paying £3 for something that costs 8p to make, the quantity of milk makes a HUGE difference.

[edit] Wow, I guessed at 8p. This link says I was spot on! http://www.howtostartacoffeeshop.co.uk/ ... ample.html 8p for a cup of coffee. 6p for a cup of milk. So we were both right [/edit]

Gryff

[PinkDalek]

Cos when you're paying £3 for something that costs 8p to make, ...

That 8p (coffee) + 6p (milk) = 14p is said to be the cost of the ingredients only.

(before you pay everything else)

Anyway, I've yet to pay £3 for a take-away doppio espresso.

[Lootman]

Cos when you're paying £3 for something that costs 8p to make, ...

That 8p (coffee) + 6p (milk) = 14p is said to be the cost of the ingredients only.

(before you pay everything else)

One of my sons is in the hospitality management business (as pubs and restaurants are called these days) and according to him both concepts are used. The "food cost percentage" is used and it is the cost of the raw ingredients expressed as a percentage of the menu price.

Then there is the "margin" which is the non-food costs again expressed as a percentage of the menu price.

Whilst the "markup" is the menu price expressed as a percentage of the costs.

Summarising: menu-price/(food cost plus margin) = markup. Think I got that right anyway.

Apparently the best products to sell on a markup basis are pizza and coffee - both quick and easy to make, have cheap ingredients and sell quickly and often. And typically main courses are not that profitable measured this way - restaurants make more money on starters, desserts and of course drinks. Order just an entree and some water and you will really piss off the restaurant owner, apparently.

[doug2500]

My old Krups machine has been doing the business for 30 years

BJ

I have a krups frother which I think is great too, I would totally recommend one for heating and frothing milk. Good latte's or hot chocolate, both awesome. Is this the same?