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Tory Leadership

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 9:53 pm
by Howyoudoin
Don't want to turn this into a 'Polite Discussion' thread. Would rather it remained here and more lighthearted.

With that in mind . . . without elaborating, who are your preferred final two candidates?

Based on what I have seen on TV and heard on radio over the last week, my two are Gove and Stewart.

Who are your two preferred final candidates?

HYD

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 9:56 pm
by PinkDalek
Churchill and Thatcher (keeping it lighthearted).

Re: Another fine mess

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 10:08 pm
by UncleEbenezer
Laurel and Hardy.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 10:32 pm
by dionaeamuscipula
Leadsom and McVey.

Clearly both madder than boxes of frogs

DM

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 12th, 2019, 10:32 pm
by tjh290633
Abbott and Costello, or Boris plus one.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 8:08 am
by bungeejumper
Stewart and Hammond. Except that Hammond's got too much sense to want the job and Stewart's too much of an inexperienced long shot. Frog-face doesn't exactly have a commanding microphone presence, either. Although I'd still back him against Bojo, who does. :| Or Loathsome, who smiles like Cruella de Ville and somehow looks as though she's been freshly embalmed every morning.

BJ

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 8:19 am
by kiloran
Howyoudoin wrote:Based on what I have seen on TV and heard on radio over the last week, my two are Gove and Stewart.
HYD

That would be my choice, they both seem to have a sensible degree of realism and pragmatism. I used to dislike Gove but he's gone up in my esteem over the past few years. And Stewart seems refreshingly honest and open.

But realistically, I don't think they stand a cat in hell's chance

--kiloran
PS...good luck with your wish to keep this in the Snug!

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 8:48 am
by scrumpyjack
tjh290633 wrote:Abbott and Costello, or Boris plus one.


I thought Abbott and Corbello were the labour goons?

ABC = Anyone But Corbyn?

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 8:54 am
by scotia
kiloran wrote:PS...good luck with your wish to keep this in the Snug!

I think we should keep it here in the snug and request that HYD post an appropriate verse of 10 green bottles as each combatant bites the dust.
Surely , as a certain tennis player would probably say "You can't be serious" :lol:

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 8:59 am
by sg31
I have a serious problem with BoJo, slime ball basically.

Gove, I used to read his articles in the Times, I found them less than impressive and I've seen nothing since to improve my opinion of him.

Stewart seems quite impressive when I've seen him but he is a long shot.

I'm a Labour supporter at heart but couldn't vote for the party under the present leadership. I may have to sit out the next election unless things change.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:14 am
by Spet0789
Hari and Kiri.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:17 am
by Howyoudoin
kiloran wrote:
Howyoudoin wrote:Based on what I have seen on TV and heard on radio over the last week, my two are Gove and Stewart.
HYD

That would be my choice, they both seem to have a sensible degree of realism and pragmatism. I used to dislike Gove but he's gone up in my esteem over the past few years. And Stewart seems refreshingly honest and open.

But realistically, I don't think they stand a cat in hell's chance

--kiloran
PS...good luck with your wish to keep this in the Snug!



Hmmm. Just seen Redsturgeon's post asking people to keep politics out of the Snug.

Apologies, saw that too late, although I do think sensible people should be allowed to discuss politics here, like any pub up and down the land. It's only when it gets personal and heated that people should be asked to continue the conversation in Room 101 (aka Polite Discussions). <shudder>

HYD

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:20 am
by didds
sg31 wrote:I'm a Labour supporter at heart but couldn't vote for the party under the present leadership. I may have to sit out the next election unless things change.



At the risk of becoming serious, there are other "left" alternatives. Some of which have zero chance of ending up as government so are a "safe" vote if you really don't want them in power.

But I do sympathise - because now you are voting for somebody you don't want to vote for in order to not vote for somebody else you don't want to vote for. This is where a meaningful and official "None of the above" aka NOTA option with teeth would alleviate your (and others' ) issues

But that is straying form this thread's OP

didds

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:29 am
by didds
... and of course also depends on your consitiuency.
In mine you could pin a blue rosette on a plastic bag and it would get elected (similarly a red rosette in Cynon Taff etc). Not voting in these seats won;t make the slightest difference.

If you lived in Southampton Itchen constituency, with a majority of just 31 in 2017, your non-vote is potentially two votes for the eventual winner ie you increase the potential majority by one rather than reduce it.

didds

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:29 am
by bungeejumper
Howyoudoin wrote:Hmmm. Just seen Redsturgeon's post asking people to keep politics out of the Snug.

OK, then, maybe try a different tack. Which TV programmes would our esteemed parliamentary representatives be best suited to?

I've said that Andrea is a dead ringer for a bit part in the Addams Family (or similar.) Pointy-head would fit right into In the Night Garden. And Boris? The Muppet Show, perhaps?

BJ

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 9:57 am
by redsturgeon
Howyoudoin wrote:
kiloran wrote:
Howyoudoin wrote:Based on what I have seen on TV and heard on radio over the last week, my two are Gove and Stewart.
HYD

That would be my choice, they both seem to have a sensible degree of realism and pragmatism. I used to dislike Gove but he's gone up in my esteem over the past few years. And Stewart seems refreshingly honest and open.

But realistically, I don't think they stand a cat in hell's chance

--kiloran
PS...good luck with your wish to keep this in the Snug!



Hmmm. Just seen Redsturgeon's post asking people to keep politics out of the Snug.

Apologies, saw that too late, although I do think sensible people should be allowed to discuss politics here, like any pub up and down the land. It's only when it gets personal and heated that people should be asked to continue the conversation in Room 101 (aka Polite Discussions). <shudder>

HYD


Moderator Message:
I'm just the messenger. I think we are all doing very well on this thread so far to keep it "Snug appropriate".

Long may it last.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 11:24 am
by UncleIan
didds wrote:... and of course also depends on your consitiuency.
In mine you could pin a blue rosette on a plastic bag and it would get elected


Like Jeremy Hunt in his constituency? 21,500 majority last time out. 28,500 the time before.

I mean, he got described as a windsock recently, and that seems about right as it's basically a plastic bag with a hole at both ends, that changes direction with whichever way the wind is blowing.

I'd like him to be PM, just for the continued verbal slip ups followed by profuse apologies.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 1:54 pm
by UncleEbenezer
The BBC have a big No 10 pic on their page at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48395611

In front of the door on that pic is a candidate who clearly beats any of the others.

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 2:19 pm
by Rhyd6
I'm with Uncle E, the Moggy definitely has it :D

R6

Re: Tory Leadership

Posted: June 13th, 2019, 4:51 pm
by PinkDalek
Rhyd6 wrote:I'm with Uncle E, the Moggy definitely has it :D


He's not running. ;)