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Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 26th, 2019, 9:40 pm

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/cri ... t-drayton/
Fake £20 warning:
OK they look fairly good, got all the security features probably. Just one slight problem - they are TWENTY POOND notes
Surely this must be deliberate? Get a forgery that good and misspell 'pound' ???

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 26th, 2019, 9:43 pm

I may have answered my own question;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-20-Pound ... SwTn1dcPsV

Surely this can't be legal?

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby XFool » September 26th, 2019, 10:11 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:I may have answered my own question;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-20-Pound ... SwTn1dcPsV

Surely this can't be legal?

Yes(?)

Is there not a copyright notice at the bottom of UK paper currency for precisely this sort of reason, following some 'incident' a while ago now involving an artist?

'© THE GOVERNOR AND COMPANY OF THE BANK OF ENGLAND 20xx'

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby EssDeeAitch » September 27th, 2019, 6:17 am

Not surprising. I live here and assume they are used to pay for the fake tans.

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby jfgw » September 27th, 2019, 12:52 pm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-20-Pound ... SwTn1dcPsV

1 x £20 Pound GBP Note Party,Realistic Prop Money fake PROP ONLY Looks Great

It appears that listing these as movie props is not against eBay policy although the word "party" could imply that they are novelty banknotes. EBay may interpret their rules less literally, however.

Not allowed

...Counterfeit banknotes
Novelty banknotes...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/pr ... cy?id=4337


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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 27th, 2019, 1:33 pm

Odd, then, that they have a Novelty and Replica banknotes category;
https://www.ebay.co.uk/b/Novelty-Replic ... bn_2316823

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby Lanark » September 27th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Prop notes are 20% larger than real ones so are not going to fool anyone in real life.

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 27th, 2019, 3:27 pm

Doesn't mention that in the article I linked to, so it may not apply to all these fake ('novelty/prop') banknotes

And anyway, wasn't the copyright notice introduced because someone was selling banknote tea-towels of all things?

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby XFool » September 27th, 2019, 4:20 pm

AleisterCrowley wrote:Doesn't mention that in the article I linked to, so it may not apply to all these fake ('novelty/prop') banknotes

Inappropriate or novelty reproductions

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/using-images-of-banknotes

"We do not allow inappropriate or novelty reproductions because they could affect the integrity or public image of our banknotes, cause offence, or infringe copyright."

AleisterCrowley wrote:And anyway, wasn't the copyright notice introduced because someone was selling banknote tea-towels of all things?

I still vaguely remember this as some incident (in the 1990s?) where an artist reproduced BoE notes, but a quick Google has not so far provided confirmation.

Though Banksy later tried his hand:

Banksy fake banknote artwork joins British Museum collection

The Guardian

Piece depicts Princess Diana and was one of thousands of copies produced in 2004

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Re: Fake £20s from Newcastle?

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Postby stevensfo » September 27th, 2019, 6:25 pm

For props, you can just photocopy the notes. If you spend a bit of time messing around with different papers, they look very good.

You can also use photocopies of notes to make note-sized bundles look like bundles of real banknotes.

Not that I have any real interest in this of course. :-)

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