The North - where does it start?

[zico]

Interested to see what people from "The South" think of when they see the phrase "The North".
Feel free to self-identify as Southerners regardless of your current location.

[AleisterCrowley]

Don't forget the Midlands - Brum/Wolves/Coventry are neither north nor south
Based on my rail journeys I reckon the North starts at Stoke, and the Midlands/South border is Banbury

[PhaseThree]

The North starts at Newry, The South starts at Dundalk

[zico]

I deliberately left out the Midlands, because there's a lot of talk about "the North" so wondering where people thought it was (and whether for many people the Midlands counts as part of the North).

[AleisterCrowley]

As a Midlander (and proud of it) you can't leave us out
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_England

[terminal7]

Who cares?

I live in London

T7

[PinkDalek]

I don't self-identify but, for example, do you mean North or South of Doncaster/Sheffield (the Poll is unclear)?

[kiloran]

Sheffield.

In this divided country, there is no middle ground

--kiloran

[scotia]

I suppose if a friend asked me that question, without giving it much thought, I would say - round about Inverness.
The frame of reference is relevant!

[redsturgeon]

I think the generally recognised boundary is a line drawn north east from the Severn estuary up to the Wash.

John

[AsleepInYorkshire]

Up tere in the North we consider anything North of Watford to be in't North

AiYn'U

[AleisterCrowley]

I think the generally recognised boundary is a line drawn north east from the Severn estuary up to the Wash.

John

Which would put Hereford, Worcester, Evesham, Leamington Spa, Stratford-upon-Avon etc in 'The North'
Eeeh by eck, that great Northern scribbler Bill Shakespeare, with his gritty working class plays and stuff.

[Urbandreamer]

The fundimental problem is North of what?

Nothern hemashere, Northern UK, Northern Island, Nothern Wales, Northern England?

To put it another way, direct translations would translate Norfolk to Northern folk and Suffolk to sothern folk. It's all relative.

Since you don't specify it is safe to assume that the entire of the UK is in the north as it's north of the tropic of Cancer.

I myself would assume that you meant Northern England, given the options offered don't go far enough north for Northen UK. However if we are to relate the question to recent events then Northern MP's MUST include those from Scotland. Hence north of Morecambe rather than north of Fenny Draton. One makes me a southerner, the other a northener.

[AleisterCrowley]

The North is a state of mind. Probably.

[jfgw]

I have always lived in Essex but I self-identify as a Northerner


Julian F. G. W.

[genou]

Interested to see what people from "The South" think of when they see the phrase "The North".

Arf. As you leave Inverness, going in the appropriate direction obviously, you are going towards The North. I'm a Weegie, and the first time I grasped where "The Midlands" were, I thought "you are f*** joking" . but surely The North cannot be south of the Midlands.

[dionaeamuscipula]

The context of the question requires us to consider the meaning of the North of England only.

The North East is Northumberland, County Durham, Tyne and Wear, and the area of the former county of Cleveland in North Yorkshire.

The North West is Cheshire, Cumbria, Greater Manchester, Lancashire and Merseyside.

The North is these two regions plus Yorkshire and Humberside.

OTOH North Britain is Scotland, and therefore everything else apart from Ireland is South Britain.

South Wales is everything below the M4. Everything else is North Wales apart from the bit beyond where the M4 peters out at a shitty roundabout, which is West Wales.

DM

[tjh290633]

I refer the Honourable Members to my answers on the other thread.

Potters Bar, surely.

TJH

[scrumpyjack]

When you reach the first mill where there's 'truble at'

[bungeejumper]

South Wales is everything below the M4. Everything else is North Wales apart from the bit beyond where the M4 peters out at a shitty roundabout, which is West Wales.

Below the M4? Bloody hell, that's like the Gaza strip. Couldn't you at least have said the Heads of the Valleys?

Surely, North Wales is where Welsh is (at least occasionally) spoken? Which, rather awkwardly, also excludes the entire eastern half of the country.

For me, North Wales is the part of the country where I can drive my car without fear of getting killed. The M4 area is a traffic war zone.

BJ