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What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 1:09 pm
by robbelg
Just watched the New Year in Sydney. According to my watch,phone and computer they finished the countdown and fired off the fireworks at 22 seconds past the hour !
OK the signal has to come halfway round the world vi satellite (2?, 3? ) then retransmitted in the UK but thats still a very long time

Thoughts?

Rob

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 1:24 pm
by XFool
robbelg wrote:Just watched the New Year in Sydney. According to my watch,phone and computer they finished the countdown and fired off the fireworks at 22 seconds past the hour !
OK the signal has to come halfway round the world vi satellite (2?, 3? ) then retransmitted in the UK but thats still a very long time

Thoughts?

Digital transmission systems? Real time processing = real time delay
Plus, if it did come via satellite...

Also: How do you know your watch is exactly synchronised to Sydney time?

My relatively cheap Citizen Eco-Drive seems to be. According to the Internet, at least. :)

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 1:38 pm
by Mike4
robbelg wrote:Just watched the New Year in Sydney. According to my watch,phone and computer they finished the countdown and fired off the fireworks at 22 seconds past the hour !
OK the signal has to come halfway round the world vi satellite (2?, 3? ) then retransmitted in the UK but thats still a very long time


Thoughts?

Rob


Don't tell me, your watch in time-calibrated from the internet! So it would be a surprise if it didn't agree with your phone and computer.

Or is it actually a proper watch, running on springs and cogs? In which case does it agree with the pips on an FM radio?

Edit to sort out me tags.

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 1:43 pm
by XFool
Actually...

As this thread is titled "What time is it?", if you try to really answer that question you will find it gets more and more complicated as you go on. :lol:

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 2:19 pm
by bungeejumper
Simple. If the big hand is up Noddy's nose, it's time for Listen With Mother. :D

Hard to disagree with the internet/data lag theory, though. Even the ten o'clock news on BBC iPlayer comes in at two minutes past, for technical reasons which my poor old brain is unable to cope with. But it does it every night, so it must be me that's nursing unreasonable expections, mustn't it?

BJ

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 2:26 pm
by kiloran
Mike4 wrote:Don't tell me, your watch in time-calibrated from the internet! So it would be a surprise if it didn't agree with your phone and computer.

Or is it actually a proper watch, running on springs and cogs? In which case does it agree with the pips on an FM radio?


You don't need all that fancy modern technology. You just need a piece of paper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctM_Rvgjfpo

An all-time comedy classic

--kiloran

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 3:08 pm
by Tedx
You don't want to have the radio on when your watching a live football game on Sky Stream then.

Honestly, VAR have nipped off and come back from a fly cup by the time it catches up with the goal.

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 3:21 pm
by UncleEbenezer
Have you ever listened to live radio on an old-fashioned tranny alongside a mobile phone? There's a time-lag there too. There are many lags in digital technologies, quite apart from any associated with going by satellite. Probably starting with the telly cameras in Sydney.

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 3:23 pm
by bungeejumper
Tedx wrote:Honestly, VAR have nipped off and come back from a fly cup by the time it catches up with the goal.

I get your drift, but would I regret it very much if I asked what a fly cup was? Sounds like the kind of thing you'd be likely to find in our local greasy spoon. :?

BJ

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 3:30 pm
by Tedx
bungeejumper wrote:
Tedx wrote:Honestly, VAR have nipped off and come back from a fly cup by the time it catches up with the goal.

I get your drift, but would I regret it very much if I asked what a fly cup was? Sounds like the kind of thing you'd be likely to find in our local greasy spoon. :?

BJ


Local vernacular - apologies.

Fly Cup: noun - a tea or coffee break taken 'on the fly', meaning a quick cuppa.

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 5:03 pm
by simsqu
UncleEbenezer wrote:Have you ever listened to live radio on an old-fashioned tranny...



What, like Grayson Perry?

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 6:16 pm
by CliffEdge
The clock tower nearby always chimes at two minutes to the hour. The coronation clock in town doesn't have any hands. We manage.

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 8:20 pm
by 88V8
CliffEdge wrote:The coronation clock in town doesn't have any hands.

Never wrong then. Beats all other timepieces hands down.

V8

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 9:05 pm
by tjh290633
We have several sources of time. First a number of radio synchronized clocks, then a number of battery operated clocks set by them, then the Internet time as shown on my computer and mobile phone. Finally the time indicated by our streaming TV. It is noticeable that the time on a streamed BBC news programme like BBC1 Breakfast agrees with the Internet but, if you use BBC iPlayer there is a definite lag.

If you listen to Test Match Special on DRB it tends to be ahead of the live TV commentary on the same match. I can go to another room to watch the wicket fall, just reported on radio.

I suspect that some live programmes are delayed in case censoring is required.

TJH

Re: What time is it?

Posted: December 31st, 2023, 11:22 pm
by XFool
tjh290633 wrote:If you listen to Test Match Special on DRB it tends to be ahead of the live TV commentary on the same match. I can go to another room to watch the wicket fall, just reported on radio.

That's odd. DRB broadcasts are usually behind the sound on DTV. Perhaps the OB TV signal goes by satellite and the radio commentary by landline?

tjh290633 wrote:I suspect that some live programmes are delayed in case censoring is required.

Yes they are. Such as phone-in programmes.