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PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Re: PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Postby swill453 » April 25th, 2024, 6:39 pm

swill453 wrote:I'm not sure that's (entirely) the case. The implication from what I've read is that the access which was stated to be impossible but turned out not to be, was the techs accessing something physically in the sub post offices.

That was confirmed just now on the BBC 6pm news. An email from Angela van den Bogerd was read out at the enquiry which stated "I found out this week that Fujitsu can actually put an entry into a branch account remotely".

Certainly doesn't sound like a database that Fujitsu were responsible for managing.

Scott.

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Re: PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Postby didds » April 26th, 2024, 2:53 pm

Nimrod103 wrote:Over the last few days there has been a semantic argument as to whether there were bugs in the software and whether they should be called bugs. I don’t follow the significance of this because the accusation is that there were back doors into the programme and that Horizon staff were changing figures without the postmasters knowing it. It doesn’t seem to me that that is a bug, that is an intentional bit of programming.



and even if it WERE unintentional ie a bug - or alternatively a "feature" if the bug can be viewed as useful - it still existed and was used by Horizon staff it seems.

So indeed - the core is that that it was claimed that this was impossible but it was being done.

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Re: PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Postby stewamax » April 26th, 2024, 4:05 pm

It can be safely assumed that former PO CEO Paula Vennells, who will be giving evidence on 22nd May for three days, was watching the near-vivisection of Angela van den Bogerd today and yesterday.

It was no surprise that the adversarial KCs gave her a hard time at the close, but it was illuminating that Jason Beer KC for the Inquiry laid into her so cuttingly and so early. He went as far as he could without appearing adversarial - a superb performance by an Inquiry specialist at the top of his game.

Ms Vennells will now know what lies in store for her.

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Re: PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Postby didds » April 29th, 2024, 7:07 pm

stewamax wrote:Ms Vennells will now know what lies in store for her.



Lets hope it's Rwanda

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Re: PO Scandal – poetic justice

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Postby stewamax » Yesterday, 10:19 am

I noted
stewamax wrote:It can be safely assumed that former PO CEO Paula Vennells, who will be giving evidence on 22nd May for three days, was watching the near-vivisection of Angela van den Bogerd today and yesterday.

Leading counsel to the Inquiry Jason Beer KC at least gave her around 15 minutes of comparative ease before tearing her to pieces.
Yesterday 3rd, he gave no such concession to PO solicitor Jarnail Singh who was accused of being a liar right from the outset.

And the day before, when external solicitor Martin Smith repeatedly disclaimed the slightest responsibility for anything despite having spent umpteen years with Cartwright King, Junior counsel to the Inquiry Justin Blake was finally goaded to ask "Were you on work experience?"
I choked laughing (perhaps I can sue someone).


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