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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby bungeejumper » August 16th, 2020, 12:20 pm

All good on my PC as well. Brilliant pics, Snorvey, I could almost smell the heather.

BJ

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby swill453 » August 16th, 2020, 12:29 pm

All look fine to me.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Snorvey » August 16th, 2020, 12:34 pm

Today's nature watch included (I think) Dotterel (a squeaky call?) at first they came in as a flock, before splitting up and darting around close to the ground.

Ptarmigan - audible only in the mist.

Mountain Hares. Audible (you can hear them thundering across the hillside) with occasional glimpses. So quick though.

There was a bird high up drifting on the thermals. I'd guess it was a buzzard.

Sheep and coos lower down.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby scotia » August 16th, 2020, 12:36 pm

Snorvey wrote:I honestly don't know why it does that - or how to fix it. they're fine on my phone and I upload them to flickr where they look also fine.

On my tablet and phone they look fine

And they are fine on my PC with Edge Brower and Windows 10
I have only seen dotterel once - high up in the Braemar area. They wandered around, and didn't seem to be bothered by our presence

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby kiloran » August 16th, 2020, 12:52 pm

Snorvey wrote:Up again before the birds thus morning for a rather drive up to Ben Rinnes. About half an hour into a dark and foggy, but perfectly still climb, my head torch stopped working, which made the next half an hour quite......errr.....entertaining.

.......but then you burst through the cloud and......wow. Not a breath of wind and only the sound of my collapsing lungs to shatter the peace and quiet.

Cheers!

It's one of the great pleasures of life, going up a hill and breaking through the cloud.

Back in 1979, some friends emigrated to Switzerland, and I visited them a month or so after they arrived. They were still a bit shell-shocked getting their new life organised, so we decided to have a day off and do some touristy things. We went to Vitznau, where they have a railway which goes to the peak of Rigi. Jumped on the train, on a miserable cloudy day, and trundled up the mountain. Totally unexciting, then we suddenly burst through the clouds. What a transformation, a stunning view. Alps in all directions, from the 1800m peak of Rigi. And, of course, a hotel on top, serving fine beer. That was the instant when my friends realised why they had gone to Switzerland. An unforgettable experience.
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--kiloran

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby UncleEbenezer » August 16th, 2020, 12:56 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:
Snorvey wrote:
I wondered what you were on about originally....but just now i see a couple of the pictures are upside down (they werent earlier on).


I wonder if this is something to do with the EXIF orientation tags on those specific images, and if those images were taken with the portable device turned 'upside down' when compared to the others?

I see that Snorvey is not using IMGUR to host his images, which usefully strips out all EXIF information from their hosted images (good from a security point of view...), but I suspect that the host Snorvey is using might not, and I wonder if it might be useful for someone who is seeing an upside-down image to specifically post the URL for one of those images so that Snorvey can check this?


Taking two of the pics from that latest post,
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/502 ... 026b_o.jpg shows upside down.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/502 ... 8a79_o.jpg shows the right way up.

When I click through to those URLs (which I find through "view source"), the pics appear much bigger, and the right way up!

This is chrome on a macbook pro, which seems pretty mainstream to me!

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby swill453 » August 16th, 2020, 1:04 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:This is chrome on a macbook pro, which seems pretty mainstream to me!

Just tried it with Chrome on an iPad, which is the closest to that that I've got to hand, and all looks good, nothing inverted (other than the clouds :-))

Scott.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby UncleEbenezer » August 16th, 2020, 2:44 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:This is chrome on a macbook pro, which seems pretty mainstream to me!

I'm getting the same upside-down pics on my Linux desktop. On multiple browsers: again, Firefox and Chrome seem pretty mainstream!

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Snorvey » August 16th, 2020, 3:00 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:
UncleEbenezer wrote:This is chrome on a macbook pro, which seems pretty mainstream to me!

I'm getting the same upside-down pics on my Linux desktop. On multiple browsers: again, Firefox and Chrome seem pretty mainstream!


Well Im on linux/firefox here and its fine and also Android on my phone - both fine here. I'll check tomorrow on my work W10/edge/chrome/firefox pc, but Ive never had problems in the past.

It must be you

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Itsallaguess » August 16th, 2020, 3:19 pm

UncleEbenezer wrote:
Itsallaguess wrote:
Snorvey wrote:
I wondered what you were on about originally....but just now i see a couple of the pictures are upside down (they werent earlier on).


I wonder if this is something to do with the EXIF orientation tags on those specific images, and if those images were taken with the portable device turned 'upside down' when compared to the others?

I see that Snorvey is not using IMGUR to host his images, which usefully strips out all EXIF information from their hosted images (good from a security point of view...), but I suspect that the host Snorvey is using might not, and I wonder if it might be useful for someone who is seeing an upside-down image to specifically post the URL for one of those images so that Snorvey can check this?


Taking two of the pics from that latest post,

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50231466518_7b7747026b_o.jpg shows upside down.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50231963096_495e438a79_o.jpg shows the right way up.

When I click through to those URLs (which I find through "view source"), the pics appear much bigger, and the right way up!

This is chrome on a macbook pro, which seems pretty mainstream to me!


When we look at the underlying EXIF data on the above two photos, and check the 'Orientation' flag using IrfanView Portable (https://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/irfanview_portable) via the Image....Information....Exif Info option, we can see that the two photos have got different 'Orientation' settings -

Image

I suspect that any photos showing up here as upside down on people's various systems will have their EXIF 'Orientation' field set to 'Bottom Right'..

This issue isn't seen when IMGUR is used to host images posted on this board, as IMGUR strips the EXIF data from any uploaded images, so it seems that the issue is related to the fact that flickr will unfortunately maintain these EXIF 'Orientation' tags, and it's that process that's causing some issues with some people's configurations. I see the same issues with these latest photos on my Android tablet, via Firefox, but they view fine on my Windows 10 machine..

Whilst I hope the above is useful, it's really missing the main reason that I wanted to post, however, which was to say what fantastic photos they are Snorvey, and what a brilliant start to the day above those clouds...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Snorvey » August 16th, 2020, 4:12 pm

Aye, but it's really only uncle eb that's gurning.

Acceptable losses.

;)

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby sg31 » August 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm

Snorvey, outstanding pictures.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Itsallaguess » August 16th, 2020, 4:35 pm

Snorvey wrote:
Aye, but it's really only uncle eb that's gurning.

Acceptable losses.

;)


Heh - well joking aside...

If you're likely to continue using the same device to take these sorts of landscape shots and flickr to host them, and given the quality of the photo's I can't really see why you wouldn't, then you could take a couple of quick test photos with the device in both orientations, turned 180 degrees between each picture, take a note of what the back of the device looked like when you took each photo, and then post both of the flickr test photos on the temporary TEST board - https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=28.

Then, if UncleEb let you know which one looked the correct orientation on his set-up, you could simply put a little sticker on the back of your device, with 'UP' written on it, for when you take the next set of pictures...

Cheers,

Itsallaguess

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby Snorvey » August 16th, 2020, 4:48 pm

Ah....i see what you're saying. Generally when I'm out on these things the phone resides in my top left hand pocket. Sometimes, if I'm needing to take a pic quickly I'll whip it out, unlock it and take the shot one handed (normally several pics with only the best one kept)

On the other hand, when I have more time, the phone is held in both hands and, when I think about It, the phone might be the other way up.

...but saying that Flickr is a pain these days. Sometimes it takes ages to upload pics (more than a day on occasion), and sometimes I end up uploading the same pic more than once (I'm convinced that by doing this you can give Flickr a bit of a nudge)

So I may well end up finding a new home for my snaps.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby dealtn » August 16th, 2020, 4:53 pm

I don't normally post here, but just to say I see the "upside down" pics too, so someone isn't alone!

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby oldapple » August 16th, 2020, 9:06 pm

dealtn wrote:I don't normally post here, but just to say I see the "upside down" pics too, so someone isn't alone!


Are you in Australia?

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Postby scotia » August 16th, 2020, 9:54 pm

kiloran wrote:It's one of the great pleasures of life, going up a hill and breaking through the cloud.
--kiloran

and thats true with even modest little hills. I remember from Castlelaw Hill in the Pentlands looking down at the cotton wool covering Midlothian.

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby UncleEbenezer » August 16th, 2020, 10:12 pm

oldapple wrote:
dealtn wrote:I don't normally post here, but just to say I see the "upside down" pics too, so someone isn't alone!


Are you in Australia?

Thwack!

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Re: The Lemonfool my pic of the day thread

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Postby tjh290633 » August 16th, 2020, 11:09 pm

I can tell you from personal experience, that one of the most buttock clenching occasions is when you are flying in cloud and descend below your safety height, relying on your dead reckoning, and come out below the cloud, in a valley with hills going into the cloud either side of you. I refused to do it, so my instructor took the aircraft down with that result. A few hundred yards either side and we would have been another nasty statistic and a warning to other airmen.

On the other hand, taking off on a dank and dreary day, to emerge from the top of the cloud into brilliant sunshine, is a marvellous experience.

TJH

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Postby sunnyjoe » August 17th, 2020, 9:09 am

Great pictures Snorvey.

My colleagues sometimes emerge just above the clouds at their work place
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/taruisa- ... 24960-bUb5


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