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Drinking booze

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Re: Drinking booze

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Postby redsturgeon » September 15th, 2017, 11:19 am

AleisterCrowley wrote:I packed in the real cigarettes a while back, but I still 'vape' so still addicted to nicotine! In fact my nicotine intake has probably increased to 40-a-day levels as I can vape indoors


This is an issue with vaping since, although it is not as bad for you as smoking cigarettes, nicotine in itself is not good for you.

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Re: Drinking booze

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 15th, 2017, 11:23 am

In large doses it's lethal, in smaller doses ...not sure what the long term effects are, if any

Beyond addiction, both short and long-term nicotine exposure have not been established as dangerous to adults,[19] except among certain vulnerable groups
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine
Of course 'not been established as' doesn't mean 100% safe , although vastly safer than real smoking

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Re: Drinking booze

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Postby redsturgeon » September 15th, 2017, 11:52 am

AleisterCrowley wrote:In large doses it's lethal, in smaller doses ...not sure what the long term effects are, if any

Beyond addiction, both short and long-term nicotine exposure have not been established as dangerous to adults,[19] except among certain vulnerable groups
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine
Of course 'not been established as' doesn't mean 100% safe , although vastly safer than real smoking



From the same alticle:

Nicotine increases heart rate and blood pressure[56] and induces abnormal heart rhythms.[57] Nicotine can also induce potentially atherogenic genes in human coronary artery endothelial cells.[58] Microvascular injury can result through its action on nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChRs).[59] Nicotine does not adversely affect serum cholesterol levels,[51] but a 2015 review found it may elevate serum cholesterol levels.[23] Many quitting smoking studies using nicotine medicines report lowered dyslipidemia with considerable benefit in HDL/LDL ratios.[52] Nicotine supports clot formation and aids in plaque formation by enhancing vascular smooth muscle.[23]


It also mentions some possible effects regarding cancer but not proven yet.


I totally agree with you that it is vastly safer than smoking cigarettes though.

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Re: Drinking booze

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Postby AleisterCrowley » September 15th, 2017, 1:12 pm

Yes, certainly not a good idea to start vaping if one is a non-smoker given the potential risks, but as a step down from smoking it's much safer.
And cheaper, importantly.
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