Dod101 wrote:YeadonLad wrote:There is far more to life than work.
It all depends. I was coming back from Singapore a week ago sitting next to a guy who was clearly working and had what I hope was a sensible conversation with him about work etc. I still feel a slight tinge of regret that I am not working. I enjoyed my work and it fired me up to speak with him. I do not understand those that want to stop working asap, even by the age of 40. In fact I feel sorry for them. I am sure there are many people who enjoy working and we retirees need to ne grateful to them because they the ones keeping the world going round.
I agree with your comments Dod. Some people are fortunate to have jobs doing things that they enjoy where as some have jobs purely to fund doing the activities they enjoy (the very fortunate get both). The latter I find becomes unsustainable for a lot of people as the work experience becomes more depressing increasing desire to spend more and more time trying to get away to do the things they enjoy. That was the position I found myself in.
You then have two options either put your nose to the grindstone to gain the wealth you need to break free or look for a career change. For me and my wife we found that our jobs were giving us no satisfaction, in my case I was an IT infrastructure engineer for a large German Multi National but my only real interest was networking and firewalls (this is where I hold most of my qualifications) but this area of the work was becoming less and less and I was being expected to spend more and more time doing menial tasks that I had no interest in. It also meant that keeping my skillset up was becoming harder and harder.
Also being on an on-call rota 24\7 one week in four for 14 years was starting to wear thin. We did not often get calls but the restriction of having every fourth weekend where you could not get away or do anything, especially during the summer is something I do not miss at all.
Also we found more and more work was being outsourced to a supplier that was totally useless and causing our team massive issues that we were expected by local management to solve while not having any access or visibility of large areas of infrastructure where the people that were actually getting paid for the work just washed their hands of the issues.
This added to a culture of bullying, politics, back stabbing and blame game combined with endless powerpoint slide shows, political correctness and diversity courses pushed me to the stage where I went to bed sometimes hoping I would not wake up in the morning. This had to end.
The plan we made a few years ago was that we would stick It there until we reached FI and then this would give me the freedom to leave the security of full time work and look for contract work where I can work specifically in the areas that interest me. I am hoping that it will re-ignite the passion I had for the job. If not then It only needs to get me to the stage where I can access my SIPP and then I can look at doing something else purely for interest and enjoyment.
For somebody who has a job that interests them and they get to work with good people then that is great, if it were me I may well have kept on going. I realise that I was fortunate that the job I had while giving me little pleasure did give me a good enough pay package to get me to a position where I now have options. I know too many that have neither and are faced with another 15 - 20 years in a job they hate with no prospect of earning enough to change things. I find that thought depressing.