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Man City charged a lot

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Postby BobbyD » February 6th, 2023, 2:27 pm

In accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1, the Premier League confirms that it has today referred a number of alleged breaches of the Premier League Rules by Manchester City Football Club (Club) to a Commission under Premier League Rule W.3.4.

Details of the Premier League Rules that the Club is alleged to have breached are as follows:

1. In respect of each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those seasons that required provision by a member club to the Premier League, in the utmost good faith, of accurate financial information that gives a true and fair view of the club’s financial position, in particular with respect to its revenue (including sponsorship revenue), its related parties and its operating costs, namely:
(a) for Season 2009/10, Premier League Rules B.13, C.71, C.72, C.75 (amended to C.79 from 10 September 2009 for the remainder of Season 2009/10) and C.80;
(b) for Season 2010/11, Premier League Rules B.13, C.78, C.79, C.86 and C.87;
(c) for Season 2011/12, Premier League Rules B.13, E.3, 4, E.11 and E.12;
(d) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11 and E.12;
(e) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rules B.15, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.49;
(f) for Season 2014/15, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(g) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.50;
(h) for Season 2016/17, Premier League Rules B.16, E.3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51; and
(i) for Season 2017/18, Premier League Rules B.16, 3, E.4, E.11, E.12 and E.51.

2. In respect of:
(a) each of Seasons 2009/10 to 2012/13 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of manager remuneration in its relevant contracts with its manager, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2009/10 to 2011/12 inclusive, Premier League Rules Q.7 and Q.8; and
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules P.7 and P.8; and
(b) each of Seasons 2010/11 to 2015/16 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to include full details of player remuneration in its relevant contracts with its players, namely:
(1) for Seasons 2010/11 and 2011/12, Premier League Rules K.12 and K.20;
(2) for Season 2012/13, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.20;
(3) for Seasons 2013/14 and 2014/15, Premier League Rules T.12 and T.19; and
(4) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules T.13 and T.20.

3. In respect of each of Seasons 2013/14 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons requiring a member club to comply with UEFA’s regulations, including UEFA’s Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations, namely:
(a) for Season 2013/14, Premier League Rule B.14.6; and
(b) for Seasons 2014/15 to 2017/18 inclusive, Premier League Rule B.15.6.

4. In respect of each of the Seasons 2015/16 to 2017/18 inclusive, the Premier League Rules applicable in those Seasons on Profitability and Sustainability, namely:
(a) for Season 2015/16, Premier League Rules E.52 to E.60; and
(b) for Seasons 2016/17 and 2017/18, Premier League Rules E.53 to E.60.

5. In respect of the period from December 2018 to date, the Premier League Rules applicable in the relevant Seasons requiring a member club to cooperate with, and assist, the Premier League in its investigations, including by providing documents and information to the Premier League in the utmost good faith, namely:
(a) for Season 2018/19, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(b) for Season 2019/20, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(c) for Season 2020/21, Premier League Rules B.16, B.19, W.1, W.2, W.12 and W.13;
(d) for Season 2021/22, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16; and
(e) for Season 2022/23, Premier League Rules B.15, B.18, W.1, W.2, W.15 and W.16.

Commissions are independent of the Premier League and member clubs. The members of the Commission will be appointed by the independent Chair of the Premier League Judicial Panel, in accordance with Premier League Rules W.19, W.20 and W.26.

The proceedings before the Commission will, in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82, be confidential and heard in private. Under Premier League Rule W.82.2, the Commission’s final award will be published on the Premier League’s website.

This confirmation is made in accordance with Premier League Rule W.82.1. The Premier League will be making no further comment in respect of this matter until further notice.


- https://www.premierleague.com/news/3045970

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby pje16 » February 6th, 2023, 2:32 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
no doubt they will wriggle out of it – again :roll:

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby BobbyD » February 6th, 2023, 2:38 pm

pje16 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
no doubt they will wriggle out of it – again :roll:


Could be interesting. Chief Sports writer for the Times is saying they can't appeal any guilty finding to the CAS, which is what got them out of the UEFA case a few years back.

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Lootman » February 6th, 2023, 2:39 pm

pje16 wrote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64536785
no doubt they will wriggle out of it – again :roll:

Fines will certainly not deter them. Maybe dock them some points?

I recall the summer when they bought Grealish for £108 million they were also trying to buy Kane. I guess Haaland will just have to do.

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Adamski » February 6th, 2023, 2:40 pm

I think (hope) this time they will get punished.

Citeh got off last time as the breaches happened too long ago for UEFA to make the charges stick. This time under PL rules no time bar exists :lol: :lol: so their highly paid lawyers cannot argue that the alleged offences happened too long ago.

I look forward to watching you in the Championship 8-)

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby BobbyD » February 6th, 2023, 2:50 pm

Adamski wrote:I think (hope) this time they will get punished.

Citeh got off last time as the breaches happened too long ago for UEFA to make the charges stick. This time under PL rules no time bar exists :lol: :lol: so their highly paid lawyers cannot argue that the alleged offences happened too long ago.

I look forward to watching you in the Championship 8-)


The potential sanctions are basically unlimited, and include compensation to other clubs, point deductions and being thrown out of the league.

This could be the cash injection the premier league needs!

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby pje16 » February 6th, 2023, 2:53 pm

BobbyD wrote:The potential sanctions are basically unlimited, and include compensation to other clubs, point deductions and being thrown out of the league.
This could be the cash injection the premier league needs!

Whoop Whoop :lol: could be fun

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby pje16 » February 6th, 2023, 4:26 pm

If you haven't come across David Squires football cartoons before
have a look here for when Man City first came into money
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng ... sformation

He is one of the sharpest wits I have ever come across
and he picks up on details that most of us never spot
It is worth reading the comments below the cartoons
they come out every Tuesday

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby pje16 » February 7th, 2023, 10:58 am

“There had to be a point in time. If you take a look at Manchester City's most recent accounts, they themselves wrote 'we're under investigation,' confirming it.

10:49
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/64507273

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby pje16 » February 15th, 2023, 9:44 am

I knew it wouldn't be long before David Squires did a new one on Guardiola
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng ... ester-city
love that the Kim Wexler gets a mention :lol:

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Tedx » November 21st, 2023, 6:04 pm

Well that's Everton dealt with.

....or is it? I read the other day that relegated Leicester and Leeds are considering their legal options with a view to taking action against the Toffees.

Compared to Everton, the charges, if proven, being levelled at Team Camel and Team Chelski, Everton may well turn out to be financially ruinous.

In Scotland, for their financial irregularities, Rangers were effectively liquidated and forced to start way back at the very bottom of Scottish football. Which is a very VERY rustic place to be.

Ah Rangers at Elgin. Those were the days! :D

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Leothebear » November 22nd, 2023, 8:22 am

City and Chelsea will get off lightly. If they really threw the book at them, the fear is a breakaway super league would be created where the big boys could do as they pleased.

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby dealtn » November 22nd, 2023, 8:36 am

Leothebear wrote:City and Chelsea will get off lightly. If they really threw the book at them, the fear is a breakaway super league would be created where the big boys could do as they pleased.


With a bill in the King's speech and expected to go through parliament relatively easily, since it has broad all party support, I can't see how such a super league would be possible.

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Leothebear » November 22nd, 2023, 12:39 pm

dealtn wrote:
Leothebear wrote:City and Chelsea will get off lightly. If they really threw the book at them, the fear is a breakaway super league would be created where the big boys could do as they pleased.


With a bill in the King's speech and expected to go through parliament relatively easily, since it has broad all party support, I can't see how such a super league would be possible.


Really! That makes it rather more interesting then. Man City have so many charges against them could be NATIONAL LEAGUE NORTH for them soon!
Then there'd be the issue of all the trophies won while engaging in illegal spending. A right can of worms!

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby Tedx » November 22nd, 2023, 12:49 pm

Well Rangers got to keep theirs - not even an asterisk next to their name in the records books.

The club was liquidated though and a new club forced to start in the lowest division. Supporters will claim the club is the same one and it's been a bit farcical they way they have been allowed to 'seamlessly' transition.

It was party time for the lower leagues though. It was practically a gala day when the huns came to town. I'm sure the NATIONAL LEAGUE NORTH teams will be saying prayers to every God under the sun.

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Re: Man City charged a lot

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Postby servodude » November 22nd, 2023, 11:17 pm

Tedx wrote:Well Rangers got to keep theirs - not even an asterisk next to their name in the records books.

The club was liquidated though and a new club forced to start in the lowest division. Supporters will claim the club is the same one and it's been a bit farcical they way they have been allowed to 'seamlessly' transition.

It was party time for the lower leagues though. It was practically a gala day when the huns came to town. I'm sure the NATIONAL LEAGUE NORTH teams will be saying prayers to every God under the sun.


I'm pretty sure I know folk who are still celebrating Stirling Albion beating them in the 3rd division
- I was expecting them to have a perfect score that season


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