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Ashes 5-0?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 5th, 2019, 2:04 pm

The thread title refers to the previous Ashes contest in Australia but judging by the mauling England are getting at Edgbaston, it might be equally apt for this series.

England don't have anyone anywhere near Smith in his present form. Lyon looks better than any spinner we can lay our hands on. Their pace and seam attack is at least as good as England's. On this showing they are simply the better side.

England with a complete bowling attack may well perform better but it's hard to see how they'll succeed against the Aussies, whose confidence must now be sky high.

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 5th, 2019, 2:08 pm

Ok. I'm watching now.

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby EssDeeAitch » August 5th, 2019, 2:58 pm

England on track for a 3-2 series win ;)

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby jackdaww » August 5th, 2019, 4:39 pm

drop denly and moeen.

anderson is a non starter nwow.

play curran and archer and leach/rashid .

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby PinkDalek » August 6th, 2019, 12:21 am

Leothebear wrote:The thread title refers to the previous Ashes contest in Australia but judging by the mauling England are getting at Edgbaston, it might be equally apt for this series. ...


Yes, I was in optimistic mode when I recommenced your thread, hoping that 5-0 might be in the offing this time around.

That was at about 5:30pm on day one. I didn't mention the score at the time, deliberately, but I'm guessing Australia were 9 down, with only the 10th wicket partnership left! :(

I still recall watching every ball of the Snow and Higgs 10th wicket partnership, putting on (looks it up) 128 in 1966. This Test's 162 for the last two wickets was on a par with that effort. Albeit number 10 and 11 didn't bat together.

At least it all showed how exciting 5 day Test cricket can be.

I hope to be at Lord's. Foolish Social anyone?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby didds » August 6th, 2019, 4:19 pm

jackdaww wrote:drop denly and moeen.

anderson is a non starter nwow.

play curran and archer and leach/rashid .


well... its probably fair on Moeen to drop him. He needs to take a load of wickets and score lots of runs in the CC to get some form back.

Denly? If we drop Denly then what about Bairstow? Bairstow has scored 139 runs in his last 10 innings. Denly has scored more runs over all in fewer innings - 174 in 8, one of which his captain ran him out terribly. So by all means drop Denly but if so then Bairstow has to go by the same token - except of course his best mate is the captain.

Anderson needs rpeplacing and will obviously (!!!) be. I quite fancy Curran . And he's scored considerably more runs that JB in his last ten innings ;-) Archer however, or Stone, assuming fit etc would be the bolder move and Id be content with either of them.

Back to Moeen and spin... England need to have a spin strategy. Root as 2nd spinner isn't a spin strategy, its a hope.

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 18th, 2019, 7:27 pm

Well can anyone tell me a more exciting England fast bowler than JA? If he's dented Smiths supreme confidence, then he nay just tilt the series England's way. There's no-one faster for England in my lifetime. Just stay healthy JA!
If Mark Wood recovers fitness the England attack would be so potent.

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby redsturgeon » August 19th, 2019, 8:47 am

Not this time round...

After yesterday this is shaping up to be an epic contest.

Smith tamed by Archer.

Stokes and Bairstow showing they are not just one trick ponies.

The rest of the Aussie batsmen struggling.

Bring it on!

John

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 22nd, 2019, 7:35 pm

Jofra is the man!

Are you still watching Snorvey old chap?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 22nd, 2019, 7:46 pm

Oh yes.

It was a bit dark for that kind of bowling at the end....no? (genuine question)

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Howyoudoin » August 22nd, 2019, 8:13 pm

Snorvey wrote:Oh yes.

It was a bit dark for that kind of bowling at the end....no? (genuine question)


As long as it's the same for both teams and the rules are agreed beforehand, I don't see (ahem) a problem.

Going off at 3pm for bad light is a pi$$take frankly. Bloody Northern towns.

HYD

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 23rd, 2019, 12:00 pm

Leothebear wrote:Jofra is the man!

Are you still watching Snorvey old chap?


Are you still watching Leo old chap?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby PinkDalek » August 23rd, 2019, 12:10 pm

Snorvey wrote:
Leothebear wrote:Jofra is the man!

Are you still watching Snorvey old chap?


Are you still watching Leo old chap?


Ouch - I wasn't but have had a glance at Cricinfo after your post.

Good to see Scotland have recovered from their 8 wicket loss to Oman. :o

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 23rd, 2019, 1:33 pm

Classic deflection tactics there PD. Could England be forced to follow on today?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 23rd, 2019, 1:46 pm

ah-hahahahahaha!

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 23rd, 2019, 2:40 pm

You can always rely on England to let you down.

<spit> The Aussies did bowl brilliantly however<spit>

but then so did Ireland......

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 23rd, 2019, 7:51 pm

Ah well Ashes gone for certain now. The Botham & Willis magic won't happen again.

Aus deserved it. They completely marmalised England today. So there you are; a Headingly humiliation. Root's match has been his worst nightmare. I wonder how it'll affect his confidence as both batsman and captain.

Still, we did fluke the WC!

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Snorvey » August 23rd, 2019, 7:59 pm

So assuming a declaration tomorrow (but I accept you never know!), what would you say? Play it safe and guarantee not losing or declaring at, say, 330 ish lead and giving England a tempter to go for it?

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby PinkDalek » August 23rd, 2019, 10:29 pm

Leothebear wrote:The Botham & Willis magic won't happen again.


Never forget Dilley’s 50 and Chris Old’s contribution with the bat. Writing in hope more than anything but maybe it is time for Jofra’s maiden century.

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Re: Ashes 5-0?

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Postby Leothebear » August 24th, 2019, 8:48 am

Snorvey wrote:So assuming a declaration tomorrow (but I accept you never know!), what would you say? Play it safe and guarantee not losing or declaring at, say, 330 ish lead and giving England a tempter to go for it?


I think the Aussies will consider the weather. If the forecast is good then I can't see an early declaration - they've only 3 wickets left anyway and they could easily go in the first session. Whatever, they'd be time left for England to get the runs in theory but have they got the the skill and steel against a very good Aus attack? Not a hope in hell.

What with this and being a CPalace fan, I'm in for a miserable summer's end.


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