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Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby monabri » July 11th, 2019, 6:40 pm

Downloaded the 1903 update a couple of days ago. It took a long time to "do its thing" and I had to do a manual restart when it hung (blank screen).

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby jackdaww » July 16th, 2019, 11:55 am

jackdaww wrote:1903 downloaded and installed today - no problems as yet .


===========================

subsequently done two laptops ok

a third laptop is struggling - multiple attempts failed - its a celeron n3050 processor having ram 2gb ddr3 and a ssd with 32gb.

i plugged in extra storage of 32gb - no luck .

i wonder how long 1803 will have support.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm

I got this last night on Windows Update...

The Windows 10 May 2019 Update is on its way. We're offering this update to compatible devices, but your device isn't quite ready for it. Once your device is ready, you'll see the update available on this page. There's nothing you need to do at this time.


Even though I've got 1809 and 1903 on MCT USB flash drives, I'd held off installing them until I was offered them via Windows Update as I had a feeling there might be some compatibility issues (I never got offered 1809 at all).

It would be handy if MS indicated what the specific issues are rather than pointing to a generic page. I switched from metered to normal connection a while back to allow more telemetry data for MS' machine learning ( although I got offered and installed all updates previous to 1809 whilst on metered, so I'm playing with hunches here).

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby NomoneyNohoney » July 16th, 2019, 5:13 pm

I pasted the 'not quite ready' message in to a search engine, and found an article saying that, in the case of the authors, windows was baulking at an XPS printer problem. Am currently reloading so can't tell you the page that explained or offered ideas, but I'd recommend doing the same and see where that leads.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Breelander » July 16th, 2019, 5:15 pm

Infrasonic wrote:I got this last night on Windows Update...

The Windows 10 May 2019 Update is on its way. We're offering this update to compatible devices, but your device isn't quite ready for it. Once your device is ready, you'll see the update available on this page. There's nothing you need to do at this time.

...It would be handy if MS indicated what the specific issues are rather than pointing to a generic page...


It's usually a software incompatibility, some 3rd-party app need to be updated to work in 1903. The most common culprit is a 3rd-party AV.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 16th, 2019, 5:19 pm

NomoneyNohoney wrote:I pasted the 'not quite ready' message in to a search engine, and found an article saying that, in the case of the authors, windows was baulking at an XPS printer problem. Am currently reloading so can't tell you the page that explained or offered ideas, but I'd recommend doing the same and see where that leads.


I might uninstall my old HP Laserjet 6L then (that I never got to work with W10) as I have a newer HP laserjet now that worked first time.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 16th, 2019, 5:26 pm

Breelander wrote:
Infrasonic wrote:I got this last night on Windows Update...

The Windows 10 May 2019 Update is on its way. We're offering this update to compatible devices, but your device isn't quite ready for it. Once your device is ready, you'll see the update available on this page. There's nothing you need to do at this time.

...It would be handy if MS indicated what the specific issues are rather than pointing to a generic page...


It's usually a software incompatibility, some 3rd-party app need to be updated to work in 1903. The most common culprit is a 3rd-party AV.


Thanks for that.
AV is Defender, drivers are all up to date apart from some optionals, but there are a few 3rd party monitoring/update apps like Lenovo/HP that might be a bit sluggish on updating to 1903 compatibility.
I'll have a look through the MS list and see if any of my installed SW is/was an issue.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 16th, 2019, 6:45 pm

Infrasonic wrote:
NomoneyNohoney wrote:I pasted the 'not quite ready' message in to a search engine, and found an article saying that, in the case of the authors, windows was baulking at an XPS printer problem. Am currently reloading so can't tell you the page that explained or offered ideas, but I'd recommend doing the same and see where that leads.


I might uninstall my old HP Laserjet 6L then (that I never got to work with W10) as I have a newer HP laserjet now that worked first time.


I'd already uninstalled it, so it's not that...

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Breelander » July 17th, 2019, 2:43 am

Infrasonic wrote:I got this last night on Windows Update...
The Windows 10 May 2019 Update is on its way. We're offering this update to compatible devices, but your device isn't quite ready for it....

...It would be handy if MS indicated what the specific issues are...


Do you want 1903? If so, why not use the MCT to make the ISO, mount it, then perform an in-place upgrade. It's either going to work or produce a two-part error code that will help diagnose the 'problem area'.

What have you got to lose apart from time? After all, you did say on another thread that....
Infrasonic wrote:I use Macrium Reflect...

...so you can easily get back to where you started if it all goes badly wrong.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 17th, 2019, 9:15 am

^^ I've also got an 1803 W10 bootable clone drive in addition to my Macrium/File History/cloud backups, so that's not really a big issue.
I've gone the MCT in place upgrade route before, as well as online FU upgrades and MCT clean installs, never had any major problems with any of them.

It's been more of an exercise to see how good MS' telemetry is really, especially as they have ramped up the machine learning recently (apparently).
I was rather hoping they would have got to the stage by now where they could tell you exactly what the compatibility issues are, rather than forcing the user to go an an easter egg hunt in advance or finding out after the feature upgrade what's broken.
Maybe it's a GDPR compliance issue?

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Breelander » July 17th, 2019, 12:59 pm

Infrasonic wrote:It's been more of an exercise to see how good MS' telemetry is really, especially as they have ramped up the machine learning recently (apparently)...


Understood. As far as I can tell the MS approach for 1903 is 'ultra-cautious' after they got their fingers burned in the enthusiastic false start for 1809.

For my own part I'm leaving my test machine running 1803 24/7 to see how long it can ignore 1903 before Windows Update installs it automatically. Currently it says the feature update is available with the 'download and install now' option below that (which I'm ignoring).

As of yesterday, MS have stated that the automatic rollout to 1803 machines (and older) has begun....

Microsoft wrote:Current status as of July 16, 2019:
We are initiating the Windows 10 May 2019 Update for customers with devices that are at or nearing end of service and have not yet updated their device...

...If you are not offered the update, please check below for any known issues that may affect your device.
https://docs.microsoft.com/windows/rele ... ws-10-1903

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Breelander » July 17th, 2019, 5:16 pm

Breelander wrote:There is a known issue in build 18362.116 that will not allow you to do an in-place upgrade while a usb drive is attached. The Catch 22 is that if you used the Media Creation Tool to make an install USB then your setup files are on a USB that must be connected!


This issue has now been fixed. The latest MCT will make install media for 1903 build 18363.239 which does not have this problem.

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby PrefInvestor » July 18th, 2019, 8:51 am

Itsallaguess wrote:I like the sound of the built-in Sandbox feature for some versions of Windows, and the speed-improvements concerning the earlier Spectre issues are very welcome indeed.


Hi itsallaguess, Recently upgraded my 2 oldish Dell PCs to 1903 using the MCT - all went smoothly, everything is working OK. BUT 1903 does seem a lot SLOWER and less snappy to me. Startup and logon are both visibly slower (so much slower you can visibly see it taking longer), as is the Disk Cleanup tool (that I thought had crashed when I first used it, but it was taking an age adding up the savings on all of the categories of system files for some reason). Now everything is still acceptably fast using an SSD as the operating system disk, but using EXACTLY the same system image and running from a HDD as the operating system disk is close to unusable, much worse than previously).

ATB

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby jackdaww » July 18th, 2019, 2:39 pm

jackdaww wrote:
jackdaww wrote:1903 downloaded and installed today - no problems as yet .


===========================

subsequently done two laptops ok

a third laptop is struggling - multiple attempts failed - its a celeron n3050 processor having ram 2gb ddr3 and a ssd with 32gb.

i plugged in extra storage of 32gb - no luck .

i wonder how long 1803 will have support.


=============================

success!!

tiny laptop now has 1903.

removed all apps , browsers, and ran many disc cleanups. leaving 10.5gb free . no extra usb storage requested.

:D

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Re: Windows 10 version 1903 'May 2019 Update' now released

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Postby Infrasonic » July 18th, 2019, 3:01 pm

jackdaww wrote:
jackdaww wrote:
jackdaww wrote:1903 downloaded and installed today - no problems as yet .


===========================

subsequently done two laptops ok

a third laptop is struggling - multiple attempts failed - its a celeron n3050 processor having ram 2gb ddr3 and a ssd with 32gb.

i plugged in extra storage of 32gb - no luck .

i wonder how long 1803 will have support.


=============================

success!!

tiny laptop now has 1903.

removed all apps , browsers, and ran many disc cleanups. leaving 10.5gb free . no extra usb storage requested.

:D


Portable apps might be worth looking at there then for the future...https://portableapps.com/


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