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Apple chips

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Postby ReformedCharacter » June 23rd, 2020, 11:08 am

Apple is officially moving to its own silicon chips for some of its Mac hardware. Calling it a “historic day for the Mac,” Apple CEO Tim Cook detailed the transitions to PowerPC, Mac OS X, and the move to Intel chips before unveiling its plans to use Apple’s own ARM-powered silicon in Macs in the future. It’s a big move that means macOS will support native iOS apps and macOS apps side by side on these new machines in the future.


https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/22/2129 ... -wwdc-2020

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Breelander » June 23rd, 2020, 11:31 am

That's going to be a bit of a downer for those that run Windows in bootcamp. While there is an ARM version of Windows 10, there's unlikely to be as much 3rd-party software that's available in an ARM version.

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby ReformedCharacter » June 23rd, 2020, 11:55 am

Breelander wrote:That's going to be a bit of a downer for those that run Windows in bootcamp.

That's what I was thinking, having just been discussing software with an architect friend who is a lifelong Apple user but who needs to run Windows software because there are no acceptable Apple alternatives.

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » June 23rd, 2020, 12:08 pm


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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » June 23rd, 2020, 10:34 pm

https://www.zdnet.com/article/arm-and-l ... 500-crown/
For years, x86 processors and Linux have ruled supercomputing. Linux still runs 500 out of the TOP500 supercomputers in the world. For just about as long, x86 CPUs have dominated supercomputers -- until now. On June 22, Japan's Fugaku supercomputer, powered by Fujitsu's 48-core A64FX SoC and running Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), became the first ARM-powered supercomputer to be dubbed the fastest computer in the world.
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Postby Infrasonic » June 24th, 2020, 1:54 pm

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/there ... ant-buy-it
A new Mac mini has been announced, but unless you're part of the Apple app developing elite, you probably can't get it.

As revealed during the WWDC 2020 keynote, macOS 11 Big Sur brings some big changes with it – not least the fact that future Macs built on Apple's own silicon will be able to run iOS mobile apps natively. Though it's designed to be a seamless porting transition, some tinkering may still be required – and Apple has new kit to help developers through the process.
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Re: Apple chips

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Postby James » June 24th, 2020, 3:16 pm

Came here for the fruity snack; stayed for overpriced computer. :D

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby UncleEbenezer » June 25th, 2020, 7:15 am

ReformedCharacter wrote:
Apple is officially moving to its own silicon chips for some of its Mac hardware. Calling it a “historic day for the Mac,” Apple CEO Tim Cook detailed the transitions to PowerPC, Mac OS X, and the move to Intel chips before unveiling its plans to use Apple’s own ARM-powered silicon in Macs in the future. It’s a big move that means macOS will support native iOS apps and macOS apps side by side on these new machines in the future.

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This has been brewing for quite a few years. ARM offers a range of advantages over Intel, of which the most mundane but historically well-known is lower power consumption, but the most important to Apple is freedom (having licensed the IP) to develop their own designs without the dependence on a dominant supplier that use of Intel imposes.

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » June 27th, 2020, 3:09 pm

https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/06/ex-in ... ransition/
...Well according to former Intel principal engineer François Piednoël, it seems Intel’s line of Skylake processors is to blame. Marketed at Intel’s line of 6th-gen Core processors, in a recent video posted to YouTube, Piednoël says the quality assurance for Intel’s Skylake processors was “more than a problem, it was abnormally bad.”...
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Re: Apple chips

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Postby UncleEbenezer » June 27th, 2020, 7:42 pm

Infrasonic wrote:https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/06/ex-intel-engineer-claims-skylake-quality-assurance-was-the-reason-for-apples-big-cpu-transition/
...Well according to former Intel principal engineer François Piednoël, it seems Intel’s line of Skylake processors is to blame. Marketed at Intel’s line of 6th-gen Core processors, in a recent video posted to YouTube, Piednoël says the quality assurance for Intel’s Skylake processors was “more than a problem, it was abnormally bad.”...
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Former Intel man? Might he perhaps have an axe (albeit an informed one) to grind there?

Skylake has a 2015 date. Apple's work towards moving to ARM goes back further than that. But if Skylake was a problem for Apple, that would look like a symptom of the underlying problem of not being in control.

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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » November 12th, 2020, 2:58 pm

https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-M1-Ma ... 856.0.html
A new listing on Geekbench 5 for the M1 MacBook Air posts impressive numbers. The machine handily beat the Core i9-9880H 16-inch MacBook Pro in both single- and multi-core tests by a wide margin. More impressively, the M1 MacBook Air uses a 10 Watt CPU that is passively cooled and still beat the most powerful laptop in Apple's repertoire.
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Postby Infrasonic » November 19th, 2020, 8:54 pm

https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/19/ ... _apple_m1/

Anyone pondering how to get Intel-based Windows apps onto shiny new Apple M1 devices have been thrown a lifebelt by CodeWeavers.

CodeWeavers, noted for the tweaked version of Windows compatibility layer Wine, has run up its CrossOver product on hardware based on Apple's M1 silicon. The result will give heart to those keen to run the odd Windows app or two (so long as it is in the company's compatibility list) because it appears to work.
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Postby Infrasonic » November 30th, 2020, 10:50 pm

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/apple ... uch-faster
Windows 10 on ARM actually runs faster – a lot faster – on Apple’s new M1 ARM-based chip than it does on Microsoft’s rival SQ2 ARM CPU which powers the Surface Pro X.
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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » January 3rd, 2021, 2:10 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8904DBXJLg
The ARM version of Windows 10 is now bootable with a beta version of @Parallels ! In this video we take a look at what works and some pretty impressive gaming performance.
VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
01:36 - Instalation Process
02:59 - Parallels setting
05:18 - What Doesn't Work
05:56 - What Does Work
07:29 - Rocket League Windows Intel x64
08:42 - Mac Activity Monitor
09:40 - Shenmue III
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Re: Apple chips

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Postby Infrasonic » June 10th, 2021, 11:56 am

https://www.winehq.org/announce/6.0.1
The Wine maintenance release 6.0.1 is now available.
What's new in this release (see below for details):
- Various bug fixes
- Add support for wine64 on Apple M1
- Translation updates
- Documentation updates
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