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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby modellingman » February 11th, 2018, 11:05 am

JMN2 wrote:I have a T-shaped room, from the bottom up, a corridor is narrow and long, then splits into two wings (each 1 m2), each end having a door to a bedroom. I will do the bedrooms first, then continue from the bedrooms into the T-section, meet in the middle and continue down the T.

To use a floor trim in the bedrooms depends how the planks meet when the corridor starts, it's very close but by using a trim ie expansion gap I may not have to cut any planks lengthwise when the corridor starts. To clarify, looking at the T, for the whole lot the planks will be vertical.

Any flaws in my cunning plan?

Also, if I decide to laminate all the rooms at one go with the same product without using expansion gap trims between the rooms ie a big floating structure, is this OK? So the expansion gaps along the walls would be sufficient? (3 bedrooms, T-corridor, largish living room)


If, in future, you ever have to lift the flooring to get to pipes, cables, etc, under the floor having expansion gaps at doorways will seem to have been the better decision than a continuous floating floor.

I would generally avoid laying planks in the same direction as a corridor because constant walking up and down the corridor can push end joints of the planks apart. It will likely only ever be one joint this happens to but you will forever be pushing it back together and wishing you'd laid the planks across the corridor instead.

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 11th, 2018, 11:34 am

modellingman wrote:...

I would generally avoid laying planks in the same direction as a corridor because constant walking up and down the corridor can push end joints of the planks apart. It will likely only ever be one joint this happens to but you will forever be pushing it back together and wishing you'd laid the planks across the corridor instead.


OK, thanks, and laying across would mean easier cutting too as nothing is really straight angles so doing vertical would mean varying gap size and thus cutting the edge planks fatter in one end. I will do the 3 easy rooms first while I ponder this. It's not really a symmetrical T which makes it challenging.

Question: would I need a gap in the vapour plastic and underlay too? Some photos I've seen show the underlay folded against the wall but shouldn't there be a gap - an escape route for moisture?

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby modellingman » February 11th, 2018, 12:05 pm

JMN2 wrote:Question: would I need a gap in the vapour plastic and underlay too? Some photos I've seen show the underlay folded against the wall but shouldn't there be a gap - an escape route for moisture?


I wouldn't worry too much about it. The barrier is there to protect the laminate from degrading over the long term. If you need an escape route for moisture coming through the floor then you have a serious issue. The plastic vapor barrier can be surprisingly awkward to lay. Laying it without cutting to size and then trimming round the skirtings with scissors, leaving an inch or so folded up the wall is as good a way as any. Once the planks are laid trim the barrier flush with the floor using a Stanley knife. I tend to overlap the barrier at doorways.

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 13th, 2018, 8:26 pm

HTH, I worry all the time...because I am new to this DIY malarkey I have for instance pondered the best way to laminate a room like this (anything above the bottom squarish area is 90-100cm narrow so unless I cut the top off and do a trim I need to think about a very narrow stagger, 1/1, 2/3 and 1/3 perhaps).

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 14th, 2018, 12:21 pm

If only the builders in 1971 would've first laid the concrete subfloor and then installed the door jambs...they didn't have Youtube to show how easily the under cut piece of timber should come out...

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 18th, 2018, 1:59 pm

Moving into the master bedroom. Very hard on the thighs, knees are OK but the front of the thighs are singing choral hymns. Should have made my own spacers, I think I've left too wide gaps and will need wider beading. A schoolboy error. Keeping it tighter from now on. Other than that, plain sailing and the flooring I chose looks very smart. New batch arriving tomorrow.

In order to make this angle click planks snap together first the short edge is matched together, then the previous planks in the row lifted to an angle and long side snapped down into place. Well, if you have a radiator in the far end you can't lift the long board. To hear the satisfying click takes some time and effort while the legs are screaming hallelujah.

As someone said, the profit is done on beadings, trims, rosettes, etc, so I'll get those later on online.

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 19th, 2018, 9:29 am

Pondering about the doorway. Planks need to be in 45 deg angle in order to snap into place but if I have it under the door jamb then that won't happen.Perhaps cut the groove off and glue the last row? I've seen this done on the internet.

Easier and less elegant solution would be to just leave a gap around the jamb and use some flexible oak coloured sealant to hide the gap.

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 19th, 2018, 10:20 am

I am considering a carpet for the top cross T, there are 4 doors and nothing is really straight and the T's "armpits" are at different height. Then a trim and laminate again coming down the T. This would make it much easier for me, and I like those sisal beige carpets. A cop out but I would otherwise have to invest in a proper saw and vice/bench of some sort. It's a small area and probably easy to fit a carpet on.

That's decided.

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Re: Laying Laminate Flooring

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Postby JMN2 » February 23rd, 2018, 12:56 pm

Two bedrooms done, on Monday I am getting a scotia beading delivery, 22mm round quarter profile. I am going to buy appropriate panel pins. I already own a hammer.

When I stepped on a board near the wall the seam split. Took me 2 minutes to undo the planks and I found two spacers had slipped under the floor unnoticed so that's the reason there was some give in the area I stepped on. Took me 10 minutes then to redo half the room.

I suspect to do it properly, the final row near the door where the doorway plank has been shaped a bit and the row is cut narrower lengthwise would have to be glued.

But I am nailing the beading in place so if the floor gaps I can redo the final row properly later - although I am already learning how do a long step over the threshold.


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