Gaggsy wrote:I've just had a quote for a replacement for my approx. 33 year old Potterton Kingfisher 11.
The old boiler is downstairs at the back of the house and the old cylinder is in the airing cupboard upstairs. The proposal is to re-site the boiler in the upstairs airing cupboard. We're in a hard water area and the pipework has a lot of scale in it.
It seems a lot to me but does anyone have any views?
To attend site, drain down heating and hot water system. Remove old floor standing boiler and strip pipe
work back as far as possible. Re site boiler to top of airing cupboard. Supply and fit 1no Ideal Logic + system
boiler, magnetic filter, new motorised valve and new controls and cylinder. Alter all pipe work to suit new
boiler position. Power flush central heating system. Run new gas pipe from meter to boiler. Wire up new
central heating system. Test and leave in good working order. Total Costs £4,236 (including VAT)
I'm not a plumber. I don't work for Ideal. I work for a small company. "We" build new homes ranging in size from 3,300 to 7,300FT2. (Prices on application
)
If you specify an Ideal Vogue boiler you will get a 10 year warranty subject to meeting certain criterion.
https://idealboilers.com/products/vogue-max-combiThis warranty may be extended to 12 years if you meet specified terms and conditions
https://idealboilers.com/uploads/docume ... rranty.pdfWe have used Worcester Bosch and have had no issues with them. I cannot comment on the difference between the two boilers. "Our plumber" differentiates them on price and feels they both offer very similar performance. However, I am sure that is a subjective opinion and it may be his opinion revolves around his margins.
I am confident that others have given you some great advice. I would suggest that you consider that you may be able to reduce your costs and maintain the same outcome. It may be possible to keep your new boiler in the same location as the old? I hope someone with more knowledge than me can back that up or rubbish it. I don't think you will need a water softener on your heating system if it is unvented - and again I hope someone will confirm or rubbish that. "We" are looking at the Albion cylinder by Kingspan which is unvented and albeit it's an "ugly duckling" I'm assured it's suitable, especially when inside a cupboard. I think what I'm saying is shop around and consider your options.
I've done a little work back. Please bear in mind these figures are to help - but I hope they illustrate my strategy when "judging" the offering based on price. I hasten to add price is but one function to view when purchasing and my apologies for teaching you how to suck those proverbial eggs.
1. Boiler and flu (for 3,300FT2) 1,100.00 (mounted on external wall)
2. Unvented cylinder 650.00 (let me check the quote I have and I will confirm)
3. Labour 5 days @ £200 1,000.00 (Indicative and highly subjective)
4. Bits 300.00
4. VAT @ 20% 610.00
5. Total 3,660.00
Of course the above figures are merely a suggestion. But I genuinely hope you agree that it's a sincere effort to try and develop a strategy to understand the quotation you have been given.
Finally and I really have no idea at all - none. "We" currently pay £16,400 (exclusive of vat and the bathroom suites) to fit out 3,300FT2 on a supply and fit basis. For that we get
1. Boiler
2. Underfloor heating downstairs
3. Radiators and TRV's upstairs
4. Labour to fit 4 bathroom suites and kitchen sinks
5. Cylinder
6. First fix plumbing
7. Supply only room stats (I think we have six zones downstairs - UFH)
I hope you find a solution that fits your pocket and demands and if I have talked total rubbish (with a capital "B") please dismiss me politely
All the very best
AiY