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Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 16th, 2018, 3:46 pm
by didds
Following on from the legal case in the week regarding Pimlico Plaumbers and the employment status of their "self employed" wortkers...

DAK how on earth this situation has gon eon for so lomng without it being of interestes to HMRC?

From what I can tell from the descriptions provided surrounding the case, these "self employed" workers seem to fail every IR35 test going... they had no autonomy in what and where and when they worked, they had no substitution rights, they had to wear PP clothing and drive liveried vehicles.

IR35 has been around since 2000! How can HMRC not have been aware for almost two decades? (PP began in 1982 so its business model was well established by the end of the last century)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IR35

didds

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 16th, 2018, 5:33 pm
by dspp
Presumably nobody in HMRC ever needs a plumber in London ?

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 16th, 2018, 9:00 pm
by Devjon
I'm sure it has got nothing whatsoever to do with the generous political donations made over the years by the owner.

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 17th, 2018, 11:04 am
by didds
Devjon wrote:I'm sure it has got nothing whatsoever to do with the generous political donations made over the years by the owner.


presumably to all of Con, Lab and LD ? ...

and surely HMRC is independent of political party/governmental influences (aside from legislation) ?

didds

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 17th, 2018, 1:17 pm
by JMN2
dspp wrote:Presumably nobody in HMRC ever needs a plumber in London ?


Yes, they only needed IT people.

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 17th, 2018, 5:43 pm
by Slarti
dspp wrote:Presumably nobody in HMRC ever needs a plumber in London ?


Nobody in HMRC can afford to live in London. They all commute.


Slarti

Re: Pimlico Plumbers

Posted: June 17th, 2018, 7:11 pm
by chas49
Moderator Message:
This really isn't a DAK is it? I'm moving it to the Taxes board as that's what the original question was about. Please try and stick roughly to that topic :) (chas49)