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Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 4:44 pm
by Sparkling
Hello,

a new lemon here ;)

Are there any capital gains to consider after a company take-over (Wholefood aquisition by Amazon in 2017)?
I was a bit surprised to receive the mandatory cash compensation (5000 £ plus) back then. There were no warnings or options :roll:

Any hints highly appreciated.

Cheers,

Sparkling

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 5:05 pm
by Alaric
Sparkling wrote:Are there any capital gains to consider after a company take-over (Wholefood aquisition by Amazon in 2017)?


Shares presumably. If Amazon bought the shares off you for more than you paid, there's a capital gain and thus a potential liability to capital gains tax. However individuals have an annual exempt allowance. This was £ 11,300 in the 2017-18 tax year.

Assuming you didn't have any other gains, there's no tax to pay and no need to notify HMRC.

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 21st, 2019, 6:11 pm
by Sparkling
Thank you for your response.

Unfortunately I maxed out my capital gains before the unexpected take-over/compensation. I notified HMRC about the mandatory sale in SA, but did not hear back from them on this issue and was just wondering.

Greetings,

Sparkling

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 22nd, 2019, 3:59 pm
by Gersemi
Sparkling wrote:Thank you for your response.

Unfortunately I maxed out my capital gains before the unexpected take-over/compensation. I notified HMRC about the mandatory sale in SA, but did not hear back from them on this issue and was just wondering.

Greetings,

Sparkling


When you say you notified HMRC via SA what do you mean? You should have completed the Capital Gains pages to notify them of the gain. If these were completed correctly a liability would have been calculated and the tax is now due.

Do you mean you made a note in the white space somewhere and you are expecting HMRC to contact you about it?

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 24th, 2019, 11:27 pm
by Sparkling
My mistake, sorry Gersimi and previous poster.

I confused share sales proceeds with capital gains.
I maxed up my shares sales , not the capital gains, before the surprise sale occurred. (Yes, I am always that dumb.) Sorry again.

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 25th, 2019, 12:12 am
by Alaric
Sparkling wrote:I maxed up my shares sales , not the capital gains, before the surprise sale occurred.


I believe there's a rule that HMRC expect to see an itemised list of gains when the total proceeds exceed 4 times the annual allowance, even where the gains themselves are within the allowance.

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 25th, 2019, 7:46 am
by Dod101
Sparkling wrote:My mistake, sorry Gersimi and previous poster.

I confused share sales proceeds with capital gains.
I maxed up my shares sales , not the capital gains, before the surprise sale occurred. (Yes, I am always that dumb.) Sorry again.


How do you 'max up' your share sales? What do you mean?

Dod

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 25th, 2019, 8:48 am
by GoSeigen
Dod101 wrote:
Sparkling wrote:My mistake, sorry Gersimi and previous poster.

I confused share sales proceeds with capital gains.
I maxed up my shares sales , not the capital gains, before the surprise sale occurred. (Yes, I am always that dumb.) Sorry again.


How do you 'max up' your share sales? What do you mean?

Dod


There's a limit on the total value of disposals you can make without being required to report them to HMRC. I expect the poster exceeded that limit and now has to do the CGT paperwork.


GS

Re: Capital Gains on mandatory cash compensation?

Posted: March 25th, 2019, 9:04 am
by Dod101
GS

Yes I forgot that or at least had not thought it through. I have never been in that position although most years I do have capital gains which of course I try to keep within the tax free limit.

Dod