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Any donee tax on money gifts to someone in Germany?

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stewamax
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Any donee tax on money gifts to someone in Germany?

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Postby stewamax » January 1st, 2018, 5:32 pm

Title says is all really...
If I transfer a significant sum as a gift without reservation to a daughter living in Germany, DAK if she can be taxed on the transfer in some way by the German IRS.
On my side of the coin, I haven't seen anything in HMRC's publications to indicate that gifts to donees abroad are outside of PETs (but perhaps I have missed something), so I realise that if I die before the 7-year PET window is up, I assume she is liable to be taxed by HMRC. How this would work I don't know; perhaps in this instance HMRC don't bother and just go direct to the estate for the money.

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Re: Any donee tax on money gifts to someone in Germany?

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Postby swill453 » January 1st, 2018, 5:50 pm

stewamax wrote:perhaps in this instance HMRC don't bother and just go direct to the estate for the money.

Surely in most instances they "go direct to the estate for the money".

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Re: Any donee tax on money gifts to someone in Germany?

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Postby Lootman » January 1st, 2018, 6:36 pm

My understanding is that Germany taxes the beneficiary rather than the estate. In other words it is a true inheritance tax whereas what the UK has should in fact be called an estate tax.

This could have important implications for a German beneficiary of a gift or bequest from a UK donor, since it could end up being taxed twice, i.e. by both jurisdictions. Whereas a UK beneficiary of a German gift or bequest might escape tax altogether.

These folks seem to know a lot:

http://www.crosschannellawyers.co.uk/ge ... ne-glance/

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Re: Any donee tax on money gifts to someone in Germany?

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Postby stewamax » January 1st, 2018, 8:48 pm

Tnx Lootman. The link you provided is most useful - and a bit scary with the possibility of double taxation when HMRC taxes the estate and the German IRS then taxes the legatee.


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