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Burford bonds

Gilts, bonds, and interest-bearing shares
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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Neutrino » June 26th, 2023, 8:16 pm

Treasury 0.25% 31/01/2025 (TN25) is showing Sell: £92.20 | Buy: £92.40. Based on a mid price of £92.30 I get an annual yield of 5.363% (lower considering trading costs), most of which is UK tax free capital gain (for gilts).

I found that trades on UK gilts executed at close to mid price, not at the nominal bid or offer prices.

The UK yield curve is here:
https://markets.ft.com/data/bonds

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby hind » June 27th, 2023, 10:43 am

Laughton, personally think its quite good as can swap for some extended duration at good rates

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby princepaul » June 28th, 2023, 4:12 pm

Laughton wrote:Damn! I was quite happy seeing these through to redemption next year. Now I'll have to look for an alternative home for the proceeds somewhat sooner.


There's always BUR3 (5% 2026). Currently yielding about 7.42% (gilts+260bp). With the latest round of funding in place, Burford are well financed way past the redemption date on these bonds, and the chances are they will also be bought back early at a premium.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Laughton » June 28th, 2023, 4:32 pm

princepaul wrote:
Laughton wrote:Damn! I was quite happy seeing these through to redemption next year. Now I'll have to look for an alternative home for the proceeds somewhat sooner.


There's always BUR3 (5% 2026). Currently yielding about 7.42% (gilts+260bp). With the latest round of funding in place, Burford are well financed way past the redemption date on these bonds, and the chances are they will also be bought back early at a premium.


Ah yes. Thanks for that.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby cosmokramer » July 12th, 2023, 9:10 am

repayment date is today, any news about a redemption price yet?

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Laughton » July 12th, 2023, 11:40 am


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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby cosmokramer » July 12th, 2023, 12:14 pm

cheers Laughton, now to find a home for this cash :roll:

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Laughton » July 13th, 2023, 10:13 am

Repayment due yesterday (July 12) but nothing received so far from idealing or HL.

Anyone actually seen the cash yet?

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Surerera » July 13th, 2023, 11:49 am

Nothing from AJ Bell either.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby cosmokramer » July 13th, 2023, 6:08 pm

Have just received the funds from Interactive Investor, no accrued interest though which isn't right is it?

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Laughton » July 13th, 2023, 9:04 pm

Now received redemption and accrued in all my idealing accounts. Nothing still via HL.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby formoverfunction » July 14th, 2023, 7:14 am

ii as of last night received capital, but not interest.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby cosmokramer » July 14th, 2023, 9:08 am

interest now in on my ii account

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Surerera » July 14th, 2023, 9:24 am

All money received from AJ Bell and I've re-invested some in BUR3 at 92.44 which is 7.57% ytm.

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Re: Burford bonds

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Postby Laughton » July 14th, 2023, 11:11 am

HL now credited redemption proceeds but not accrued.


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