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HFEL top up

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Postby JuanDB » October 10th, 2018, 6:46 pm

In the spirit of "Be greedy when others are fearful"...

Against a bit of a sell off today I couldn't resist taking the opportunity to top up my Income IT portfolio with a good tranche of HFEL at 3.39p. A 52 week low and at a small discount. A forward yield of 6.53% is very welcome, and going ex-div in a couple of weeks.

Also keeping an eye on MYI which seems to have a widening discount and a forward yield of 4.87%.

Now I just need to ignore the inevitable continued drop and count the income!

Juan.

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby jackdaww » October 10th, 2018, 7:52 pm

nice yield to be had.

the whole market is sliding now .

i hold and will wait a bit longer to add .

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby BrummieDave » October 10th, 2018, 7:57 pm

MYI is already my largest holding, with HFEL my fourth. despite that I'm tempted to add to them currently.

PLI is also looking attractive IMHO.

Any other relative bargains for the LTBH income seekers anyone's noticed?

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby richfool » October 10th, 2018, 8:53 pm

BrummieDave wrote:MYI is already my largest holding, with HFEL my fourth. despite that I'm tempted to add to them currently.

PLI is also looking attractive IMHO.

Any other relative bargains for the LTBH income seekers anyone's noticed?


A few to be going on with:
In the UK G&I sector: Temple Bar (TMPL) and Shires (SHRS). Econ Global Utilities & Infrastructure (EGL) in the Utilities sector.

And In the Asian Pacific sector: AAIF (Aberdeeen Asian Income) and JAI (JP Morgan Asian Income).

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby nmdhqbc » October 10th, 2018, 9:24 pm

LWI forward yielding about 3.88% today. Pretty good if it keeps up its 8-10% dividend growth rate of recent years. I was very tempted but didn't pull the trigger.

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby JuanDB » October 10th, 2018, 9:27 pm

I wonder how LWI are achieving that divi growth rate fishing in the usual pool of uk large caps? Dividend seems to be covered although only just last year. Doesn’t seem like that trend can continue.

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby nmdhqbc » October 10th, 2018, 9:44 pm

JuanDB wrote:I wonder how LWI are achieving that divi growth rate fishing in the usual pool of uk large caps? Dividend seems to be covered although only just last year. Doesn’t seem like that trend can continue.


Their remit is not just large cap. They had a lot of mid and smaller but I think they've recently reposition at least a bit towards more larger.

It looks like they must be ok for this year since they seem to be on course for a rise of 10%. Already paid 13p, 13p, 14p so the final dividend will be at least 14p. From 49p in 2017 to at least 54p in 2018. So I presume they wouldn't raise the dividend by a higher % than last year unless they have the revenue to justify it. But I agree the more larger cap higher yielding shares it could well restrict dividend growth going forward.

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby JuanDB » October 11th, 2018, 8:56 am

Never underestimate Mr Markets ability to make one feel a fool. :shock:

If someone could call bottom so I can put the other half in? :)

Juan

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby Noiseboy » October 11th, 2018, 9:58 am

Doubled my holding this morning, Looked like a good entry point

Part of my core ISA Portfolio along with MYI, MERCH, FGT and SDV

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby Steveam » October 11th, 2018, 10:51 am

Thx for drawing attention to this. I've made a small top-up with some spare cash at £3-38.

Best wishes,

Steve

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby JuanDB » October 11th, 2018, 1:35 pm

Nice to see a bounce back from the horror show of the opening price.

Congratulations to anyone who got in at £3.16!

Juan

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby monabri » October 11th, 2018, 4:43 pm

JuanDB wrote:Nice to see a bounce back from the horror show of the opening price.

Congratulations to anyone who got in at £3.16!

Juan


Two top ups of HFEL , £3.18 (8:24am) and £3.22 (8:30am) (two different accounts - one of which would not let me buy until 'later').

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby puffster » October 11th, 2018, 6:26 pm

JuanDB wrote:I wonder how LWI are achieving that divi growth rate fishing in the usual pool of uk large caps? Dividend seems to be covered although only just last year. Doesn’t seem like that trend can continue.

In the recent half year report they said that instead of charging management fees/costs only to the revenue account they would in future charge them 50/50 between the revenue and capital accounts. This will allow them more space to continue dividend increases in the short term.

Regards, Puffster

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby JuanDB » October 11th, 2018, 6:38 pm

monabri wrote:
JuanDB wrote:Nice to see a bounce back from the horror show of the opening price.

Congratulations to anyone who got in at £3.16!

Juan


Two top ups of HFEL , £3.18 (8:24am) and £3.22 (8:30am) (two different accounts - one of which would not let me buy until 'later').


Congratulations monabri a nice 7% yield locked in at that price!

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby monabri » October 11th, 2018, 6:39 pm

Thanks. A chance to average down a little! HFEL is my largest IT holding (4.5% of p/folio). I'm hoping they'll continue to grow the Divi at 6% p.a. as they've managed in the past.

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Re: HFEL top up

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Postby BrummieDave » October 12th, 2018, 8:54 am

By way of update I topped up four of my six largest holdings (within my LTBH income generating portfolio): LWI, MYI, STS and HFEL.

Happy with the price and yield on each of them, and happy to let the dividends reinvest a little longer before I turn the tap on.


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