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HY IT

Closed-end funds and OEICs
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HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 3:18 pm

Hi

Is there anywhere I could find a list of IT that have high yields?

I, for whatever reason, like income from my ITs, then I can play with it and invest it somewhere else.

The two I have currently are quite high at c5%, but I want to sell one of them and would prefer something giving a similar level of income but not with the same type of underlying investments - is there a way to cut down the number of factsheets I have to wade through?

Ta

Mel

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Re: HY IT

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Postby nicster » June 19th, 2018, 3:27 pm

The AIC website has a find and compare IT page, that allows sorting by div yield.

https://www.theaic.co.uk/aic/find-compa ... t=dividend

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Re: HY IT

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Postby Raptor » June 19th, 2018, 3:29 pm

I use AIC then the "find and compare" option. Then select "income" from investment needs.

Try this

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Re: HY IT

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Postby mc2fool » June 19th, 2018, 3:31 pm

melonfool wrote:Is there anywhere I could find a list of IT that have high yields?

Here you go: https://www.theaic.co.uk/aic/find-compa ... =&manager=

If every IT sorted by yield is too much you can filter by sector/geography/needs/etc....

[Edit: Seems to be a popular source :D]

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Re: HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Thank you - I like those.

This is the one I am trying to replace: Invesco Perpetual Enhanced Income

And this is the one I retain: CQS New City High Yield

Chosen as both quite high yield and compliment each other, in theory.

Mel

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Re: HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 3:37 pm

Maybe this one: Henderson Diversified Income

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Re: HY IT

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Postby DrBunsenHoneydew » June 19th, 2018, 4:00 pm

Henderson High Income
City Merchants High Yield

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Re: HY IT

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Postby monabri » June 19th, 2018, 6:11 pm

Henderson High Income (HHI)


Henderson Diversified Income (HDIV)




I actually bought a small tranche of HDIV today.

As I already have a UK HYP, "HHI" would only be duplication of quite a few existing holdings.

I'd also point to the AIC. All the data can be downloaded into a spreadsheet and sorted however one might desire.

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Re: HY IT

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Postby richfool » June 19th, 2018, 7:23 pm

Be aware that HDIV reduced its dividend w.e.f. Dec last year:

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=7314&p=79992&hilit=HDIV#p79992

This thread may also be of interest:

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=7036&p=76788&hilit=HDIV#p76788

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Re: HY IT

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Postby flyer61 » June 19th, 2018, 8:06 pm

Interesting melonfool...I am considering doing the reverse of what you propose with IPE and NCYF. Ie selling NCYF and going back into IPE.

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Re: HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 8:08 pm

Have you been following the recent coup attempt though? Too much drama for me....


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Re: HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 8:09 pm

Yes, Monabri, I'd already spotted that HHI replicates a lot of my individual holdings.

Mel

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Re: HY IT

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Postby vrdiver » June 19th, 2018, 8:24 pm

monabri wrote:I'd also point to the AIC. All the data can be downloaded into a spreadsheet and sorted however one might desire.

I guess I'm having a "senior moment", but could you show this idiot how?

VRD

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Re: HY IT

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Postby flyer61 » June 19th, 2018, 8:55 pm

Melonfool, they both invest in junk (well mostly sub investment grade). I feel happier buying this stuff at a discount and selling when they run at a premium. I got out of IPE in the high 70’s, thinking about buying in now as the premium has gone.
NCYF trades at a punchy premium.....will it last?

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Re: HY IT

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Postby melonfool » June 19th, 2018, 10:40 pm

flyer61 wrote:Melonfool, they both invest in junk (well mostly sub investment grade). I feel happier buying this stuff at a discount and selling when they run at a premium. I got out of IPE in the high 70’s, thinking about buying in now as the premium has gone.
NCYF trades at a punchy premium.....will it last?


I didn't understand a word of that. :lol:

Which 'both' do you mean anyway? I'll detangle the rest when I've got that straight!

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Re: HY IT

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Postby monabri » June 19th, 2018, 10:46 pm

vrdiver wrote:
monabri wrote:I'd also point to the AIC. All the data can be downloaded into a spreadsheet and sorted however one might desire.

I guess I'm having a "senior moment", but could you show this idiot how?
VRD


Interesting,.....I'm having a senior moment too!

I downloaded the full list on 5 April 2018 with no problems (and have downloaded it previously).

I came to look how to do it today (in response to your post, VRD) and things appear to have changed!

However, if you now go into

- Find and compare investment companies

- Interactive statistics


This will present a full table with the option to review the data in 3 ways (previous working day : month end : or year end).

At least it presents all the info on one continuous screen.

I note it is a BETA ("Please note that this tool is currently a beta version which is still undergoing final testing and may be subject to further amendments over time.")

This makes me suspect (rightly or wrongly?) that they have been changing the AIC website. I note that there is also options to filter data and to omit columns that one is not interested in.

The data can be sorted by any of the columns (company name / management group/ // gearing/yield etc. ) within the AIC website by clicking on the red boxes.

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Re: HY IT

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Postby flyer61 » June 20th, 2018, 5:52 am

Apologies melonfool. I am away at the moment and the wine had gone to my head. At some stage I will attempt to put a cogent reply together that makes sense to ‘both’ of us :D

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Re: HY IT

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Postby vrdiver » June 20th, 2018, 9:29 am

monabri wrote:Interesting,.....I'm having a senior moment too!

I downloaded the full list on 5 April 2018 with no problems (and have downloaded it previously).

I came to look how to do it today (in response to your post, VRD) and things appear to have changed!

Thanks for that. Thought I'd lost my marbles looking for the "download" button! I'll keep an eye on it to see if the beta version changes to add the functionality back in.

VRD

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Re: HY IT

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Postby tjh290633 » June 20th, 2018, 9:36 am

I find that most tables in HTML can be downloaded into Notepad, then copied to a spreadsheet and then recreated by Text to Columns. Column separators are usually tabs, as I recall.

TJH

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Re: HY IT

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Postby vrdiver » June 20th, 2018, 10:49 am

tjh290633 wrote:I find that most tables in HTML can be downloaded into Notepad, then copied to a spreadsheet and then recreated by Text to Columns. Column separators are usually tabs, as I recall.

TJH

I was hoping to avoid the legwork (there are 24 pages of data before applying filters) but yes, it's possible to grab the data from the screen(s).

Alternatively, I could get off my backside and work out how to do it properly with a bit of VBA...

VRD


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