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Princess Private Equity

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Princess Private Equity

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Postby Welshmidget » January 22nd, 2018, 8:33 am

Hello all. Does anyone have any idea why Princess Private Equity (PEY) has dropped 8% in the last week? I see they sold out of the VAT Group AG, but don’t see how that could drive the price down 8%... (The wife thought it might be to do with Carillion, but I can’t see how.) I noticed that a couple of other Private Equity ITs aren’t doing so well either. Any information gratefully received.

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby richfool » January 22nd, 2018, 11:47 am

Welshmidget wrote:Hello all. Does anyone have any idea why Princess Private Equity (PEY) has dropped 8% in the last week? I see they sold out of the VAT Group AG, but don’t see how that could drive the price down 8%... (The wife thought it might be to do with Carillion, but I can’t see how.) I noticed that a couple of other Private Equity ITs aren’t doing so well either. Any information gratefully received.


I note HAST sold some of its holding of PEY. See here:

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=9638&p=112063#p112063

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby Vince56 » January 22nd, 2018, 7:49 pm

I don't know why it would drop 8% in a week, but I seem to remember that Witan also trimmed its stake. I started a thread re PE a little while back on here, and I thought at the time that I'd continue to hold Princess because of its yield. However, when it got to par I decided to sell, and as it went to a premium, perhaps others thought the same? I will continue to monitor it though, and may buy back in at some point

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby UncleEbenezer » January 22nd, 2018, 10:36 pm

Looks to me like a small glitch in an upward trend. The size is probably affected by relatively low liquidity,

Time will tell if there's anything more to it. I hope not: it's hitherto been a happy entry in my portfolio.

(Though I hadn't realised it had moved up to NAV/Price parity before the fallback).

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby UncleEbenezer » January 23rd, 2018, 1:05 pm

Heh! It seems they've been overstating NAV! RNS about the sale of Trimco states it in USD, which (depending on the dates concerned) could well mean they're understating it.

https://www.investegate.co.uk/article.aspx?id=201801230705016271C wrote:Princess will receive proceeds of approximately USD 24.4 million subject to closing adjustments. This compares to a carrying value of USD 24.9 million (EUR 20.9 million) at 30 November 2017.

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby mickeypops » January 23rd, 2018, 10:56 pm

I hold PEY too, and have done rather well out of it. Part of the recent fall may be down to the improving fortunes of the £ v. EUR?

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Re: Princess Private Equity

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Postby Longtermyieldman » January 24th, 2018, 8:58 pm

Whatever caused the drop it seemed to reverse quickly. I don't have access to volume trading data but wonder whether there were some big sales that day. It's not particularly liquid.


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