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Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 9:06 am
by Tedx
Cushion at the ready? Check

Matchsticks to keep eyelids open? Check.

Sleeping bag? Check.

Urinary catheter and drainage bag? Check.

Enough food and water supplies for 2 days? Check

Distress beacon in case it all gets too much? Check.

Right. Let's go to the movies.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 9:52 am
by terminal7
You seemed to have forgotten your mobile so that you can text your 'followers' in the dark.

T7

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 10:00 am
by Laughton
Wait until it becomes available on a streaming service when PAUSE button will become usable.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 4:58 pm
by Niksen
As I have a Cineworld Unlimited card, what I have been known to do with some of these unfeasibly long films is to book two showings of the film, then go and watch the first half and leave and then return to the second showing to see the remainder.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 5:10 pm
by Tedx
That's a great idea. I don't have a card like that though.

I just need ten minutes in the middle of the film to massage some life back into my buttocks, get some blood back into my feet and to empty my bladder. Maybe do some stretches or a quick walk around the block too.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 5:17 pm
by Gerry557
Oh and some noisy crisps and sweets. :D

I didn't really get into Dune 1 or have read the book(S) etc.

I've read the second one is highly rated but so was the first. I'm not intending to see it in the cinema and will probably see it when it's on disc on the home cinema for all the reasons above.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 5:21 pm
by Tedx
Gerry557 wrote:Oh and some noisy crisps and sweets. :D

I didn't really get into Dune 1 or have read the book(S) etc.

I've read the second one is highly rated but so was the first. I'm not intending to see it in the cinema and will probably see it when it's on disc on the home cinema for all the reasons above.


Yeah, I know I'll enjoy it more second time around at home, but the missus wants to see it. (She's a big fan of the books).

Happy wife, happy life etc

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 6:13 pm
by SalvorHardin
Alternatively watch the David Lynch version which, whilst it botches much of the final third of the book, it is far more entertaining.

The difference between the Baron Harkonnens is a good example. Lynch's is a flamboyant Machiavellian psychopath with tremendous presence. The new version is a fat bald bloke in a brown robe who is like a bored mob boss/accountant who mumbles.

Costumes, sets and the actors in the original are vastly superior.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 8:31 pm
by Gerry557
Well with wives you can be right or you can be happy. I'll await your verdict.

Is the David lynch one the one from the 80s. I might give it a go if it's entertaining and might explain things better.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 1st, 2024, 10:54 pm
by Tedx
I made it!

It was rather good too. A lot to cram in 2 and 3/4 hours but they did it well. I thought Timothy Chamolet was really, really good.

Austin Butler was a nasty piece of work.

Zendaya frowned a lot.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 2nd, 2024, 8:04 am
by Gerry557
Glad you survived and thanks for the thumbs up.

I might give one another go one morning, hopefully will stay awake and get into it. As for Austin Butler, try Masters of the Air. He plays nice.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: March 2nd, 2024, 8:42 am
by SalvorHardin
Gerry557 wrote:Well with wives you can be right or you can be happy. I'll await your verdict.

Is the David lynch one the one from the 80s. I might give it a go if it's entertaining and might explain things better.

Yes, Lynch's version is the 1984 film that cost a fortune to make and which he has disowned. IMHO it had much better sets, music, costumes and far better actors who didn't mumble. And it has Pugs. The producers knew that unless you had read the book you would struggle with the film because of the complex background, so they had the Emperor's daughter explain the setting before the pre-opening credits scene. The 1984 version also includes a lot more of the key dialogue (e.g. "There's no need to fight over me...").

Unlike the 2021 version, most of the interior scenes were well lit so you could actually see what was going on. It's a shame that the final third of Lynch's version falls apart and rushes to the ending. I gather that the money and the studio's patience was running out. Sometimes a shortage of cash can inspire a really creative ending ("Cross of Iron" springs to mind), but from what I've read most of the people involved with Lynch's version were seriously pissed off by the end and were desperate for it to finish because the production had been so difficult and stressful.

The Sci-Fi channel made a three part mini-series "Frank Herbert's Dune" in 2000 (lasting 280 minutes) which isn't rushed. Much better than the new version IMHO. They then made a sequel "Frank Herbert's Children of Dune" which covered the next two books. It was probably a good idea to stop there as God Emperor of Dune would largely consist of three hours of inner monologue whilst staring into the desert :D

Trailer for "Frank Herbert's Dune" linked below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eViumqS7NUQ

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 2:12 pm
by Tedx
I note that Dune 2 is coming on to Rakuten on Monday (and other platforms too, I assume)

That's really quick. I used to recall it would take something like a year before it came out on video.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 2:28 pm
by servodude
Tedx wrote:I note that Dune 2 is coming on to Rakuten on Monday (and other platforms too, I assume)

That's really quick. I used to recall it would take something like a year before it came out on video.


A year!
...you obviously didn't have a Betamax!

Do you remember the video shops putting "how much the video cost them" as a carboard flash on the box?
as a way to convince you that watching "Ghoulies 4 - Pure Mental Naked Ghoulies" wasn't a waste of your time

"This pish cost us 80 quid and you can have it for 2 a night!"
- that's a sticker you don't see these days --- and they say the internet is a bad thing!

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 2:51 pm
by Tedx
Oh the video shop. Azad Video to be precise. The scene of many a Friday post work argument between me and the wife.

Between forgetting membership cards and pleading with the staff (who knew you!) to let you have a film, to deciding which load of crap you were going to rent because some git hadn't returned the top title that was due back at 6pm.

She wanted 'Dirty Dancing - the early years'' (the prequel/sequel where they couldn't afford Swayze) and I wanted Death Cop 5 (the previous 4 starred Dolph Lundgren, but he was dead for episode 5*)
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Death Cop 5' it is then. We haven't seen Death Cop 1 to 4, but it doesn't matter. Spend the next 10 minutes rewinding the tape and then 20 minutes unwravelling it from the heads of your video recorder and.....
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2 hours later.

'What a load of sh......


*I have no idea if Dolph is dead or not. or if they made any of those movies. Im just making it up for effect.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 3:07 pm
by servodude
Tedx wrote:Oh the video shop. Azad Video to be precise


Azad! And blockbuster!
The two legs of the titan that was "chilling with Netflix" before Netflix was "delivering DVDs through the mail"!

Not sure you could get away with calling your "media distribution service" Azad these days? Could sound a bit like la Sharia re-education channel to the plod!?

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 3:28 pm
by Tedx
servodude wrote:
Tedx wrote:Oh the video shop. Azad Video to be precise


Azad! And blockbuster!
The two legs of the titan that was "chilling with Netflix" before Netflix was "delivering DVDs through the mail"!

Not sure you could get away with calling your "media distribution service" Azad these days? Could sound a bit like la Sharia re-education channel to the plod!?


Ah...'Lovefilm'

Where you selected your top movie picks to them and they endevoured to send none of them to you.

I recall the elation at getting a new movie through the post, hoping with all your heart it was 'Death Cop 6'.....and then the utter disappointment as you opened it to find 'Mary Poppins goes to Hollywood - the musical'

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 3:38 pm
by servodude
Tedx wrote:
servodude wrote:
Azad! And blockbuster!
The two legs of the titan that was "chilling with Netflix" before Netflix was "delivering DVDs through the mail"!

Not sure you could get away with calling your "media distribution service" Azad these days? Could sound a bit like la Sharia re-education channel to the plod!?


Ah...'Lovefilm'

Where you selected your top movie picks to them and they endevoured to send none of them to you.

I recall the elation at getting a new movie through the post, hoping with all your heart it was 'Death Cop 6'.....and then the utter disappointment as you opened it to find 'Mary Poppins goes to Hollywood - the musical'


You were obviously subscribed to a different channel of filth than I
- Poppins!? You fiend!

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 11th, 2024, 5:04 pm
by CliffEdge
Dune 2 fantastic! Couldn't believe it when I looked at my watch and two hours had passed.

Poor Things also quite long and equally entertaining in a different way. Some brilliant "Steam Punk" stuff.

That's what Cinema is for.

Re: Dune 2

Posted: April 12th, 2024, 6:10 am
by Gerry557
Tedx wrote:I note that Dune 2 is coming on to Rakuten on Monday (and other platforms too, I assume)

That's really quick. I used to recall it would take something like a year before it came out on video.



4k UHD available on the 14th May. Streaming likely on 16th April.

I'm not sure which platforms will have it available but generally it's not as good quality as the disc.

As you can only watch it for the first time once, I might wait the extra month for the better experience.