1nv35t wrote:paullidd wrote:1nv35t wrote:To reiterate. We had a bad deal. Paying the EU to access its market, allowing free access to ours. Cameron asked for a better arrangement and was refused, so we opted to leave. In leaving the EU has said you can't leave and have a better deal than the prior bad deal you already had. In leaving however we can revise trade in a manner that makes the EU's prior good deal as equally as bad. Once so the tendency may be towards removing some of the bad elements in equal measures.
This is plainly just untrue - here is a link to the EU 28 countries contributions to the EU Budget for 2016 - so who had free access to the uk market?
Dumb economics to just count the membership fee (20Bn for the UK). Important is the 120Bn/year more of their stuff we buy than they ours. Fundamentally that has to be found from somewhere i.e. added to the UK's debt mountain along with loss of assets into foreign hands.
All the Remain talk about trade-is-good, is ignorant of even basic economic understanding.
Germany were bailed out by the ECB to amounts vastly in excess of their contributions, and have as such benefited - net liability rather than a net contributor.
I'm sorry but I dont get what you are comparing here.
You said we pay to access EU market and they have free access to UK market, this is clearly not true.
The ECB may have bailed out german banks - so what?
We bailed out our banks and we are all still paying for it ten years later.
Post Brexit we will still import a lot from the EU with added tariffs, so how will that be any better?
Re- German banks and ECB bailout can you cite some evidence, whilst you're moving the goalposts.