1nv35t wrote:dspp wrote:This Remainer thinks the Brexit lot broke it, and so it is their responsibility to fix it and own up to it.
Typical. Remainers have sought to hinder/block the democratic choice to the extent of causing breakage, yet lay the responsibility of their actions onto others.
That sound like ‘slopy shoulders’ are being readied. The Referendum just asked one question the Brexit promoters knew there was no detail plan to leave and the process for leaving the EU was laid out in the treaty.
The Government Brexit negotiators include key Tory Brexiteers, Fox, Davis and of course the ‘leader’ of Brexit, Boris. Mrs Leadsom and Gove,the other key Brexit leaders are in the Cabinet . All these Brexiteers have to do is to come up with the proposals which make sense and Parliament will vote them through particularly if there are excellent Brexit benefits which must now be clear in detail to all from Fox’s trips globally.
Since the Referendum Parliament has voted for every Brexit proposal put forward by the Government. Remainers, though complaining, have had no interference with Brexit actions, all major delays have been the responsibility of the Government having another election, delaying A50, and going to court against advice to avoid Parliament approval and then losing.
If Boris and co cock it all up, Boris and co are responsible. The Government have adopted their plan for the negotiations which was agreed with the EU negotiation team. Davis and Boris are holding considerable number of meetings with the EU. The majority of the press is firmly behind Brexit, only fuddy duddy papers like the Times, Guardian, FT and the Mirror have Brexit warning articles and not many read these papers anyway. It is widely believed that the EU is over a barrel in these negotiators, the EU is worried that they will lose the UK market for their goods and the EU export more to us that we export to them. How could negotiations go wrong with such an advantage in favour of the UK? If it does it is because Boris and co sold an idea with no basis in fact or they cocked it up. Corbyn also a Brexiteer cannot be blamed as he has voted with the Government and still wants Brexit for the 'working' man who in the main voted for Brexit
Whatever happens the voters will hold someone and their party to be responsible when Brexit turns out to have no observable benefits or negative effects. I t is sensible to have a Representative Parliament who should be left to decide complex matters. If anyone is unhappy Post-Brexit a solution awaits for Labour, Tory, Liberal and Monster Raving Lunatic voters to make changes. UKIP are dead as a realistic party now.