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Thank you William Hague

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Postby ReformedCharacter » June 19th, 2018, 1:30 pm

It's a pity that politicians don't speak common sense while in power, but better late than never:

War on cannabis ‘comprehensively and irreversibly lost’, William Hague says


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 05651.html

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby JMN2 » June 19th, 2018, 3:06 pm

Recently in Liverpool and Manchester there was funny tobacco smoked everywhere, openly, even by very young looking teenagers. Lost for sure.

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby supremetwo » June 19th, 2018, 7:50 pm

Cannabis can cause schizophrenia.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/schizophrenia/causes/

Three major studies have shown teenagers under 15 who use cannabis regularly, especially "skunk" and other more potent forms of the drug, are up to four times more likely to develop schizophrenia by the age of 26.

And you rarely see any mention of the NHS costs of treating drug or other addictions.

It's always the costs for the old.

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby BobbyD » June 19th, 2018, 8:02 pm

supremetwo wrote:Cannabis can cause schizophrenia.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/schizophrenia/causes/

Three major studies have shown teenagers under 15 who use cannabis regularly, especially "skunk" and other more potent forms of the drug, are up to four times more likely to develop schizophrenia by the age of 26.


Your conclusion isn't supported by your quote, the word you are looking for is may. Correlation does not imply causation.

It might also be worth asking why there is an emphasis on strong strains, in an environment where the amount you are caught growing/dealing determines the severity of your sentence.

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby Lootman » June 19th, 2018, 8:07 pm

supremetwo wrote:Cannabis can cause schizophrenia.

Part of the argument for legalising pot is not so much that it is 100% harmless but rather that it is less harmful than a number of other drugs that are legal, e.e. alcohol, nicotine and caffeine.

Indeed, it may be less harmful than refined sugar, saturated fats and junk food. And it definitely has some beneficial effects - ask GW Pharma.

The other argument used is that pot is a gateway drug. But as a non-addictive drug that is psychotropic rather than physiological, I've never been convinced of that. I've used pot for decades and never migrated to other drugs. I've tried quite a few other drugs once but that was it.

California recently fully legalised pot as have a number of other US states. We should follow.

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby ReformedCharacter » June 19th, 2018, 8:22 pm

Lootman wrote:California recently fully legalised pot as have a number of other US states. We should follow.

Yes.

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Re: Thank you William Hague

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Postby BobbyD » June 19th, 2018, 8:39 pm

Lootman wrote:California recently fully legalised pot as have a number of other US states. We should follow.


California recently removed state prohibition of Cannabis, it's use and transport is still subject to restrictions and it remains a federal crime to grow, sell and possess Cannabis in California.

Federal Marijuana Laws
However, federal law still prohibits all use, sale, and cultivation of marijuana. Under federal law, any possession of marijuana is a crime punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine. And, the federal government imposes harsh penalties for the sale and cultivation of marijuana—up to a lifetime sentence under certain circumstances.

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Conflict between State Law and Federal Law
Unfortunately, a federal law will always preempt (or trump) a state law. In other words, even if marijuana use, cultivation, or distribution is legal in your state, you can still face serious federal charges.


- https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/ ... -laws.html


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