SentimentRules wrote:Wizard wrote:SentimentRules wrote:Why have referendums Then?
David Cameron never actually wanted one. Putting it in the manifesto was a way to deal with an internal party issue. He expected to trade it away within minutes of starting coalition discussions after the election. He never expected an overall majority.
Ok but i mean any. Example the referendum to join the EU in 1973
Surely it's either accept all referendums or do away with them all ?
There was no referendum on joining in 1973. Parliament overwhelmingly agreed to join the EEC by 356-244 in October 1971 after 6 days of debate.
This was followed by even more debate as the European Communities act (1972) went through all its parliamentary stages.
The first ever UK wide referendum was that in 1975 on whether to remain in or leave the EEC. This was an advisory referendum and was won by remain with a large majority 67% to 33%. The fact that remaining meant nothing had to change combined with the fact that the result was such a large majority meant that parliament had no trouble in accepting the people's recommendation.
(If the result had been reversed ie 67% to leave then I would again expect that parliament would have taken the advice since implementing leave at that point, so soon after joining, would have been relatively easy. At that point companies supply lines did not stretch across the continent, non-tariff barriers were still in place since the single Market didn't exist so there were no JIT systems relying on foreign parts, the NI border was not just closed but was a militarised border. Hence none of the current problems plaguing the implementation of brexit existed in 1975.
If the result had been closer then although there might have been arguments about whether to take the advice it probably would have been implemented since as I say both remaining and leaving were fairly simple at that point and hence easily implementable.)
Like the 2016 referendum that in 1975 was called to solve a party issue - in that case it was the Labour party which was split on EEC membership.