redsturgeon wrote:
I may have to buy a Tesla, but when will right hand drive be available?
John
er, now ........
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redsturgeon wrote:
I may have to buy a Tesla, but when will right hand drive be available?
John
odysseus2000 wrote:Tesla pricing is volatile.
Anyone who is prepared to wait and game the system can do well.
I imagine the folk who buy into some up swing are not happy, but whether they care once they start driving is another thing.
Regards,
Tesla Declines as Model 3 Price Cut Renews Demand Concerns
dspp wrote:redsturgeon wrote:
I may have to buy a Tesla, but when will right hand drive be available?
John
er, now ........
BobbyD
- https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... d-to-china
It seems I'm not the only one who thinks that reducing the price of a supply constrained product would be strange behaviour.
redsturgeon wrote:dspp wrote:redsturgeon wrote:
I may have to buy a Tesla, but when will right hand drive be available?
John
er, now ........
Great I may book a test drive.
John
Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions to meet Model 3 production goals
Tesla produced a record 72,531 Model 3 electric sedans in the second quarter of 2019.
Employees in the open-air GA4 “tent,” which is not fully automated, tell CNBC they were pressured to take shortcuts to hit goals — reducing vehicle testing for water leaks and using electrical tape on plastic housings to make quick fixes during Model 3 assembly.
Employees in the tent say they have also had to work through harsh weather and unhealthy air quality.
Current and former Tesla employees working in the company’s open-air “tent” factory say they were pressured to take shortcuts to hit aggressive Model 3 production goals, including making fast fixes to plastic housings with electrical tape, working through harsh conditions and skipping previously required vehicle tests.
BobbyD
If you purchase make sure to check thoroughly that it it isn't held together with electrical tape before you sign for it...
Some things are worth waiting for!
Tesla employees say they took shortcuts, worked through harsh conditions to meet Model 3 production goals
Tesla produced a record 72,531 Model 3 electric sedans in the second quarter of 2019.
Employees in the open-air GA4 “tent,” which is not fully automated, tell CNBC they were pressured to take shortcuts to hit goals — reducing vehicle testing for water leaks and using electrical tape on plastic housings to make quick fixes during Model 3 assembly.
Employees in the tent say they have also had to work through harsh weather and unhealthy air quality.
Current and former Tesla employees working in the company’s open-air “tent” factory say they were pressured to take shortcuts to hit aggressive Model 3 production goals, including making fast fixes to plastic housings with electrical tape, working through harsh conditions and skipping previously required vehicle tests.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/15/tesla-w ... goals.html
FT Alphaville ordered a Tesla Model 3
We wanted to keep our order secret, as delivery was promised a month later in June. And we thought a big review of the sales, delivery and driving experience would be the way forward.
Then, unfortunately, delivery got pushed back to July.
We tried to contact Tesla twice about the delay via its online contact form, because, as paying customers, we thought we’d have its ear.
Neither time we got a response, with Tesla blaming the cars overwhelming popularity for its customer support issues.
In frustration, we decided to up the ante. On Monday we called, and after a 19 minute wait, we finally got through.
The news wasn’t good. Delivery is now “very likely” in September, according to Tesla. The wait goes on for Alphaville, it seems.
Updates to follow in due course on insurance costs, and our general experience of the delivery process. B
BobbyD wrote:FT Alphaville ordered a Tesla Model 3
We wanted to keep our order secret, as delivery was promised a month later in June. And we thought a big review of the sales, delivery and driving experience would be the way forward.
Then, unfortunately, delivery got pushed back to July.
We tried to contact Tesla twice about the delay via its online contact form, because, as paying customers, we thought we’d have its ear.
Neither time we got a response, with Tesla blaming the cars overwhelming popularity for its customer support issues.
In frustration, we decided to up the ante. On Monday we called, and after a 19 minute wait, we finally got through.
The news wasn’t good. Delivery is now “very likely” in September, according to Tesla. The wait goes on for Alphaville, it seems.
Updates to follow in due course on insurance costs, and our general experience of the delivery process. B
- https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/07/17/ ... a-Model-3/
- https://www.google.com/search?q=alphavi ... e&ie=UTF-8
redsturgeon wrote:This sort of thing would be my worry about trying to buy a newTesla, it seems that far too much luck is involved in the process.
John
BobbyD wrote:redsturgeon wrote:This sort of thing would be my worry about trying to buy a newTesla, it seems that far too much luck is involved in the process.
John
Any luck getting on the ID3 wait list yet?
redsturgeon wrote:BobbyD wrote:FT Alphaville ordered a Tesla Model 3
We wanted to keep our order secret, as delivery was promised a month later in June. And we thought a big review of the sales, delivery and driving experience would be the way forward.
Then, unfortunately, delivery got pushed back to July.
We tried to contact Tesla twice about the delay via its online contact form, because, as paying customers, we thought we’d have its ear.
Neither time we got a response, with Tesla blaming the cars overwhelming popularity for its customer support issues.
In frustration, we decided to up the ante. On Monday we called, and after a 19 minute wait, we finally got through.
The news wasn’t good. Delivery is now “very likely” in September, according to Tesla. The wait goes on for Alphaville, it seems.
Updates to follow in due course on insurance costs, and our general experience of the delivery process. B
- https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/07/17/ ... a-Model-3/
- https://www.google.com/search?q=alphavi ... e&ie=UTF-8
This sort of thing would be my worry about trying to buy a newTesla, it seems that far too much luck is involved in the process.
John
dspp wrote:redsturgeon wrote:
This sort of thing would be my worry about trying to buy a newTesla, it seems that far too much luck is involved in the process.
John
At the moment any BEV purchase by anybody that is not nearish the factory, for any BEV that is actually desirable/desired seems production-constrained. The key issue is battery availability. There are people apparently waiting over a year to get a Hyundai EV in the UK as an example. So I am not terribly surprised that FT are getting this response, and indeed my view as a shareholder is that Tesla should run an automated webcentric/remote sales process as far as possible so as to keep S&M costs low at this stage. However the market leader in bringing capacity online is Tesla, so things are likely t ochange.
I will watch rs's attempt to order a Tesla 3 with as much interest as his attempts to order a VW id3 ............
regards, dspp
redsturgeon wrote:Looks like it is unlikely that I will be ordering a Tesla any time soon then.
I have the cash waiting to buy a BEV through our company, the 100% allowance would be handy to offset some corporation tax from a bumper year, since we have already allocated the max on pensions but the is no way on earth I could order a car without a test drive.
I understand the supply side constraints though.
John
dspp wrote:redsturgeon wrote:Looks like it is unlikely that I will be ordering a Tesla any time soon then.
I have the cash waiting to buy a BEV through our company, the 100% allowance would be handy to offset some corporation tax from a bumper year, since we have already allocated the max on pensions but the is no way on earth I could order a car without a test drive.
I understand the supply side constraints though.
John
If you are serious then you'll try to get a test drive. If you are not you won't. Your call, your cash, your loss (of the allowance, and the savings).
redsturgeon wrote:I am not aiming to purchase until April 2020 though which is why I am relaxed about it at the moment.
John
dspp wrote:1. My sales colleagues are very keen to sift out what they term "statements of insincere objections" early on in the sales process. I think you and I might term these people time-wasters. As far as I am concerned if you want a Tesla test drive for a bit of fun then find a friend with a Tesla. If you want to order a car then click to buy. For Tesla the problem at present is supply, not demand, so you have to decide whether you fish or cut bait. My colleagues who have bought S's had no problems getting a test drive, but they were sincere buyers.
2. One of my sales colleagues is still window shopping. They are well aware that waiting has fewer downsides than buying a new dino-juice car at this particular moment. So they will wait until they are sure. Meanwhile that's a sales that BMW/Merc/Volvo are not getting ......
3. Another reports that there is a big push in (their partner's) fleet to shift everyone to EVs as fast as possible. It seems that the sales-droids all want Teslas, not Leafs. Can't think why ......
4. The faster Tesla get exposed to UK (or similar) European fleet buyers the faster they will get exposed to the need for an estate version of the 3.
Merciless screening is a easy thing to do in a supply constrained environment.
regards, dspp
As soon as the ID.3 has been officially launched, your chosen retailer
will be in touch to make sure you're one of the first to get behind the
wheel. Feel free to contact them earlier with any questions though.
redsturgeon wrote:Just an update on my ID3 endeavours.
Just received an email from my local dealer letting me know:As soon as the ID.3 has been officially launched, your chosen retailer
will be in touch to make sure you're one of the first to get behind the
wheel. Feel free to contact them earlier with any questions though.
At least they are trying.
John
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