dspp wrote:Friends of mine do, or have in the past, run Maseratis or Porsches or Ferraris. They mostly lived about a 125 miles or more from the corresponding brand's dealers & service centres (let's call that the same thing). It didn't seem to stop them buying them either new or fairly new, and they accepted the issues with getting them to the dealers for servicing & repairs. Indeed these tend to be a need for fairly frequent servicing, all-too-frequent repairs, and eye-watering bills. Oh, and they absolutely had to go to the dealer.
This is/was in the UK.
There are some relevant points in this:
- many brands do not have dealers at 25-mile intervals across the UK;
- many people live in areas where dealers are a very considerable distance away;
- the brands in question managed to remain desirable, despite a need for frequent servicing, eye-watering costs, and inconvenient but common need for repairs;
- and everyone seemed to think this was all perfectly reasonable.
I think some of you have a very metro-centric view of things, and a reluctance to acknowledge that quite a lot of the FUD you are throwing around is equally - if not more - applicable to legacy dino-juice auto than to Tesla EVs.
I'm not sure you are living in the real world when you start comparing Teslas with Maseratis, Porsches or Ferraris.
Except that you are backing my theory that many of the customers of Tesla are very wealthy and can dabble in owning exotic cars as they have a few more in their garage. They aren't the average motorist who needs a reliable car.
Also, you, like others are quoting "friends" who have experiences so you don't have "real" experiences of these cars. I have a friend with a helicopter, but would hesitate to consider myself able to give opinions on which brand of helicopter would suit the average pilot.
Some of us aren't spreading FUD, but are raising real issues which may affect a typical real world motorist. We have actually driven electric cars, purchased and leased quality cars, interacted with Tesla's Sales operation and have a reasonable idea of what the owner of a £40 - £60k car might expect.
I have also owned a Porsche 911 for three years trouble-free motoring so didn't have to visit the dealer more than twice (once because I kerbed an alloy wheel which admittedly was expensive!)
So I don't think you are being fair suggesting a lot of FUD is being spread here. We're representing critical but rational views and, at the moment, the market is agreeing with us. Any decent motor manufacturer will be able to build a strong brand and refute our criticisms. Testing Tesla's practices in the UK market is totally valid for us as potential investors. They will have to satisfy a lot of us who wouldn't dream of buying a car without test driving it and reading consumer reviews like "Which" - we are the type of consumer they have to sell to.