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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 23rd, 2021, 5:08 am

The bull case for Teska, 20 minute discussion of Tesla financials & associated matters:

https://youtu.be/YSUNLyzzvWU

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 23rd, 2021, 8:25 am

Tesla Model S Plaid Delays Continue

...The Plaid+ he ordered won't be delivered until next year, but he was supposed to get his Plaid by now according to an update he got from Tesla in January. That's not the case anymore. In early April he received an update from Tesla stating the new delivery date would now be in July.


- https://insideevs.com/news/502601/tesla ... d-delayed/

New Model S - Overdue
New Model X - Overdue
Model s Plaid - Overdue
Semi - Overdue
Roadster - Overdue
FSD - really, really overdue
Giga Berlin - hasn't even got final planning approval yet

You can knock Tesla all you like, but you have to admire their consistency!

Still I'm sure this isn't a litany of vapourware or indicative of corporate incompetence so great that the entire company is doomed. Afterall that's only true if other companies run a deadline for a single model close, despite releasing it in the year of the plague...
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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 23rd, 2021, 8:34 am

Hyundai are providing security for Space X!

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 36032.html

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 23rd, 2021, 8:48 am

BobbyD wrote:
Tesla Model S Plaid Delays Continue

...The Plaid+ he ordered won't be delivered until next year, but he was supposed to get his Plaid by now according to an update he got from Tesla in January. That's not the case anymore. In early April he received an update from Tesla stating the new delivery date would now be in July.


- https://insideevs.com/news/502601/tesla ... d-delayed/

New Model S - Overdue
New Model X - Overdue
Model s Plaid - Overdue
Semi - Overdue
Roadster - Overdue
FSD - really, really overdue
Giga Berlin - hasn't even got final planning approval yet

You can knock Tesla all you like, but you have to admire their consistency!

Still I'm sure this isn't a litany of vapourware or indicative of corporate incompetence so great that the entire company is doomed. Afterall that's only true if other companies run a deadline for a single model close, despite releasing it in the year of the plague...


...forgot the Cybertruck.

Cybertruck - Overdue

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 23rd, 2021, 12:53 pm

SpaceX launches 4 astronauts to the space station:

https://twitter.com/EarlyStart/status/1 ... 32768?s=20

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 23rd, 2021, 3:53 pm

First look at Ford Mach E by Munro, interesting & well put together with a frump:

https://youtu.be/DGvWw0BHLQE

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby ReformedCharacter » April 23rd, 2021, 6:31 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:SpaceX launches 4 astronauts to the space station:

https://twitter.com/EarlyStart/status/1 ... 32768?s=20

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And with an already used first stage. Meanwhile Boeing's second test flight to the ISS has been postponed to the late Summer.

RC

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 23rd, 2021, 8:18 pm

Teslas reportedly being stopped from driving on the highway by police in Chinese megacity


https://electrek.co/2021/04/23/tesla-ow ... -megacity/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 24th, 2021, 9:40 pm

2021 Tesla Model 3 SR+ Fast Charging Analysis: Slower Than 2020


- https://insideevs.com/news/503311/2021- ... -charging/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 25th, 2021, 8:32 am

US President Joe Biden has now officially confirmed its intention to invest 15 billion dollars in the construction of a national network of 500,000 charging stations for electric vehicles. This sum had already been leaked in advance, but now the US government is providing a more in-depth look at the plans.

Through a combination of grant and incentive programmes for state and local governments as well as the private sector, the aim is to accelerate the deployment of charging stations at multi-unit housing, public car parks, municipalities and fast-charging stations along the nation’s roads.


- https://www.electrive.com/2021/04/23/bi ... k-details/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby Howard » April 25th, 2021, 11:46 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
Howard wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:
Tesla, as far as i understand it, give no discounts at all on new cars. If you want one you have to pay the full price, employee or non employee alike.

That is how to run a business.

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Another unsubstantiated claim. ;) To be added to the many on this thread.

They appear to have given some hefty discounts to leasing companies in the Netherlands and in the UK. And, if you read Tesla owner posts a lot of buyers have been tempted by offers which are the equivalent of discounts.

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I was specifically discussing discounts to employees on Tesla cars and Tesla policy is to give no discounts:

https://youtu.be/5RppTraO1I4

Sure there is nothing to stop a Tesla employee waiting for an offer to general punters and buying under the offer, but that is different to having a staff discount on cars which is something apparently VW offer.

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Tesla's discount policy appears to be very similar to other manufacturers.

Tesla reported to have sold cars to CATL employees at 20% discounts. And buying German customers' trade ins at artificially high prices so long as they purchase before quarter end.

Perhaps they were showing VW how to increase sales volumes? ;)

Every car manufacturer gives discounts when it suits them.

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Howard

https://twitter.com/DKurac/status/1379263089539915776

https://teslamag.de/news/super-angebot- ... ange-34942

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » April 26th, 2021, 7:50 am

Looks like another of VW's six battery factories is breaking cover, another pin in the map of Germany. No real surprise as specialty batteries was always likely to refer to Porsche, and where else would you build a battery factory for Porsche?

Volkswagen's (VOWG_p.DE) luxury sports car unit Porsche AG is speeding up its e-mobility drive with plans for a German factory to manufacture battery cells for electric vehicles, its chief executive officer told Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung.

..."Porsche wants to play a pioneering role in this," he said, adding that the battery cell factory would be built in the Swabian town of Tuebingen.


- https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 021-04-24/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 26th, 2021, 11:53 am

Tesla's discount policy appears to be very similar to other manufacturers.

Tesla reported to have sold cars to CATL employees at 20% discounts. And buying German customers' trade ins at artificially high prices so long as they purchase before quarter end.

Perhaps they were showing VW how to increase sales volumes? ;)

Every car manufacturer gives discounts when it suits them.

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Howard

https://twitter.com/DKurac/status/1379263089539915776

https://teslamag.de/news/super-angebot- ... ange-34942


The comparison was between VW giving discounts to employees to move their badly received range of ID3 and ID4 cars and Tesla not offering discounts for their much more respected offerings.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby murraypaul » April 26th, 2021, 12:55 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:The comparison was between VW giving discounts to employees to move their badly received range of ID3 and ID4 cars and Tesla not offering discounts for their much more respected offerings.


That would be the 'badly received' World Car of the Year ID.4?

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 26th, 2021, 3:01 pm

murraypaul wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:The comparison was between VW giving discounts to employees to move their badly received range of ID3 and ID4 cars and Tesla not offering discounts for their much more respected offerings.


That would be the 'badly received' World Car of the Year ID.4?


Yes, it would.

VW have spent a fortune marketing this motor and advertising and the tame reviewers of 'World Car of the Year' have been busily eating from VW's outstretched hand.

Meanwhile independent reviewers have not been so impressed and to get sales numbers at the end of the year they got a lot of VW's own staff to buy the ID4.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby Howard » April 26th, 2021, 3:18 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
Tesla's discount policy appears to be very similar to other manufacturers.

Tesla reported to have sold cars to CATL employees at 20% discounts. And buying German customers' trade ins at artificially high prices so long as they purchase before quarter end.

Perhaps they were showing VW how to increase sales volumes? ;)

Every car manufacturer gives discounts when it suits them.

regards

Howard

https://twitter.com/DKurac/status/1379263089539915776

https://teslamag.de/news/super-angebot- ... ange-34942


The comparison was between VW giving discounts to employees to move their badly received range of ID3 and ID4 cars and Tesla not offering discounts for their much more respected offerings.

Regards,


No. Another fact established. And a myth demolished.

Tesla do not have a "no discount" policy.

They give discounts to all sorts of customers and probably members of staff too.

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 26th, 2021, 3:44 pm

No. Another fact established. And a myth demolished.

Tesla do not have a "no discount" policy.

They give discounts to all sorts of customers and probably members of staff too.

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Howard


So far there is no evidence they give discounts to members of staff, but keep digging and perhaps you will find it.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby murraypaul » April 26th, 2021, 4:08 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:Meanwhile independent reviewers have not been so impressed


That would be the one person whose YouTube videos you keep linking to?

and to get sales numbers at the end of the year they got a lot of VW's own staff to buy the ID4.


You have numbers for that, of course?

Your bias towards Tesla is getting ridiculous when you can describe a car that won car of the year as badly received.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 26th, 2021, 4:48 pm

murraypaul wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:Meanwhile independent reviewers have not been so impressed


That would be the one person whose YouTube videos you keep linking to?

and to get sales numbers at the end of the year they got a lot of VW's own staff to buy the ID4.


You have numbers for that, of course?

Your bias towards Tesla is getting ridiculous when you can describe a car that won car of the year as badly received.


Yes, there was a good Green Peace article that gave the channel stuffing numbers of sales to employees etc. If you look back on this board to around the New Year you should find it, or look at this link:

https://insideevs.com/news/488158/green ... v-numbers/

Anyone in the industry will tell you that car of the year awards, "Which" recommendations etc are all unreliable. Big legacy auto has long had these folk tamed and feeling from its hands.

Tesla who have no traditional advertising spend and having not been around long enough to become a tame hand feeder are more immune from such false high ratings.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » April 26th, 2021, 6:03 pm

Munro episode 2 on the Ford Mustang:

https://youtu.be/qpf_7bKW7DM

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