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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 18th, 2022, 2:52 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
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...and the last time we saw an uptake figure it was about 8%, and falling precipitously, so expanding beta to probably 1 million people in 7 months time seems 'optimistic'.



Most Tesla cars over the last few years have the fsd hardware. It is possible to get fsd by subscription which is how I imagine one could get many more users, especially if it was offered at a discount to drivers who have good safety scores.

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Tesla announced that all the cars they built from then on would be FSD capable in 2016, even the ones which have since had to be upgraded to run FSD, even though FSD doesn't work yet, and the final system requirements if they ever do get it working are still unknown....

Subscription is $199 a month, FSD is essentially a US only product, not everybody with FSD has got on to the 'beta', and a million FSD bet users would be a substantial percentage of all Teslas in existence, not to mention a 6-10 fold increase in current ownership in six and a half months. Unless they are going to give it away free....


Electrify America announces new solar energy farm that can generate up to 75 MW


- https://electrek.co/2022/05/18/electrif ... -per-hour/

EA currently buy offsets to classify their supply as carbon neutral, this solar farm will produce more than the network currently uses.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 18th, 2022, 11:01 pm

I imagine that Tesla will offer some trials at low or no cost.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 19th, 2022, 9:00 am

Tesla removed from esg index:

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmani ... bsurd-move

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 19th, 2022, 9:08 am

odysseus2000 wrote:Tesla removed from esg index:

https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmani ... bsurd-move

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Tesla should never have been in an index which gad any governance criteria, since it has nothing resembling a functional system of corporate governance.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 19th, 2022, 9:12 am

Tesla cars selling very well in California:

https://twitter.com/teslapodcast/status ... VGSEcVQiVw

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 19th, 2022, 11:14 am

Speaking of sane leadership, another cracking example by the CEO of a company who sell most of their products in a country which is half democrat, and whose support for BEV's is way more than half democrat:

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Elon Musk

@elonmusk

In the past I voted Democrat, because they were (mostly) the kindness party.

But they have become the party of division & hate, so I can no longer support them and will vote Republican.

Now, watch their dirty tricks campaign against me unfold …


- https://twitter.com/elonmusk/with_replies

...and completely coherent from a man who still claims his primary aim is to save the planet

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- https://www.motherjones.com/environment ... entalists/

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby murraypaul » May 19th, 2022, 2:43 pm

Billionaire votes Republican. News at 11.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 19th, 2022, 2:53 pm

murraypaul wrote:Billionaire votes Republican. News at 11.


Billionaire trashes the political party which is most supported by people interested in the class of product his company sells, and attaches himself to a party who have given every indication that they favour moving in the opposite direction...

The National car company of California is now not only not Democratic, it's pro-Republican.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 19th, 2022, 2:57 pm

Of all the jobs being a politic party person canvasser etc is the pits in these days when all the politicians are challenged.

No body listens to arguments, especially on Twitter where it’s all a shouting match.

Meanwhile equity markets are crashing, a European war is in full swing & inflation is raging!

Oh, Happy days!

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby GoSeigen » May 19th, 2022, 5:08 pm

BobbyD wrote:
murraypaul wrote:Billionaire votes Republican. News at 11.


Billionaire trashes the political party which is most supported by people interested in the class of product his company sells, and attaches himself to a party who have given every indication that they favour moving in the opposite direction...

The National car company of California is now not only not Democratic, it's pro-Republican.


Now I'd have thought Republicans were more keen buyers of his cars. I don't see how his vehicles are particularly green compared to alternatives. They're more a rich folks' toy aren't they?

GS

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 19th, 2022, 5:37 pm

GoSeigen wrote:
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murraypaul wrote:Billionaire votes Republican. News at 11.


Billionaire trashes the political party which is most supported by people interested in the class of product his company sells, and attaches himself to a party who have given every indication that they favour moving in the opposite direction...

The National car company of California is now not only not Democratic, it's pro-Republican.


Now I'd have thought Republicans were more keen buyers of his cars. I don't see how his vehicles are particularly green compared to alternatives. They're more a rich folks' toy aren't they?

GS


Some people labour under the bizarre conclusion that Tesla's primary purpose is to save the planet, whether or not it is true. You can find that opinion liberally dotted throughout this very thread, and thousands of other threads across the internet.

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 19th, 2022, 9:31 pm


Now I'd have thought Republicans were more keen buyers of his cars. I don't see how his vehicles are particularly green compared to alternatives. They're more a rich folks' toy aren't they?

GS



It is more of a wealth dynamic. The folk who have the necessary free cash flow are buyers across all the other demographic parameters.

Electric cars are on any objective measure far cleaner & fuelled by mostly renewable power.

Unless some thing extraordinary happens combustion engined cars are like rocks at the end of the Neolithic.

If you study the subject & then listen to what the politicians & experts say who defend combustion it becomes first rate amusement. We had similar guys when the first canals opened, the first railways, the first cars,.,,

The lesson is that newer & better technology always eats older & worse technology. A modern Diesel engine converts about 1/3 of the energy in diesel into useful work. An electric motor converts 90% of the energy from batteries into useful work with so much better torque that electric cars do not need gear boxes.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby Hallucigenia » May 20th, 2022, 2:14 am

So it seems the whole politics thing was just a dead cat to distract from allegations involving Musk, naked massages, a horse and a flight attendant. Strangely he wasn't so keen on free speech in this instance, it is alleged SpaceX paid the woman $250k to keep quiet, following on from the last allegations at the company that were what, all of six months ago?

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex- ... uct-2022-5

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby odysseus2000 » May 20th, 2022, 11:22 am

Hallucigenia wrote:So it seems the whole politics thing was just a dead cat to distract from allegations involving Musk, naked massages, a horse and a flight attendant. Strangely he wasn't so keen on free speech in this instance, it is alleged SpaceX paid the woman $250k to keep quiet, following on from the last allegations at the company that were what, all of six months ago?

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex- ... uct-2022-5


Perhaps Musk is human, subject to all the human emotions, rather than an emotionless alien as some suggest.

I doubt whether anyone cares about this given the free pass that many celebrities & Presidents have had through such allegations: Clinton, Trump et al.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 20th, 2022, 4:00 pm

odysseus2000 wrote:
Hallucigenia wrote:So it seems the whole politics thing was just a dead cat to distract from allegations involving Musk, naked massages, a horse and a flight attendant. Strangely he wasn't so keen on free speech in this instance, it is alleged SpaceX paid the woman $250k to keep quiet, following on from the last allegations at the company that were what, all of six months ago?

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex- ... uct-2022-5


Perhaps Musk is human, subject to all the human emotions, rather than an emotionless alien as some suggest.

I doubt whether anyone cares about this given the free pass that many celebrities & Presidents have had through such allegations: Clinton, Trump et al.

Regards,


Allegations of sexual impropriety can be very damaging these days.

Tesla under $670.

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby murraypaul » May 20th, 2022, 4:25 pm

Almost halved in price since the beginning of April.

That seems ... overdone?

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 20th, 2022, 5:12 pm

murraypaul wrote:Almost halved in price since the beginning of April.

That seems ... overdone?


Depends how overdone you think it was in April, and how much of the curtain has slipped. Tesla's valuation has never exactly been feet on the ground rational.

In to the 650's....

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby Itsallaguess » May 20th, 2022, 5:44 pm

BobbyD wrote:
and how much of the curtain has slipped.


Slipped?

It rose up like a big top tent by the sounds of it....

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby BobbyD » May 20th, 2022, 6:39 pm

Itsallaguess wrote:
BobbyD wrote:
and how much of the curtain has slipped.


Slipped?

It rose up like a big top tent by the sounds of it....

Cheers,

Itsallaguess


That wasn't the curtain.

Bounced quite strongly after hitting 633, back in to the 40's...

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Re: Musk endeavours

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Postby murraypaul » May 20th, 2022, 6:40 pm

https://www.businessinsider.com/spacex- ... ?r=US&IR=T
The attendant's complaint was resolved quickly after a session with a mediator that Musk personally attended. The matter never reached a court of law or an arbitration proceeding. In November 2018, Musk, SpaceX and the flight attendant entered into a severance agreement granting the attendant a $250,000 payment in exchange for a promise not to sue over the claims.

The agreement also included restrictive non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses that bar the attendant from ever discussing the severance payment or disclosing any information of any kind about Musk and his businesses, including SpaceX and Tesla.

Musk is currently engaged in a bid to purchase Twitter driven by his professed belief that "free speech is the bedrock of a functioning democracy." Earlier this month, he wrote on Twitter that "sunlight is the best disinfectant."


I think people are going to enjoy running with this for a while, whether it is true or not.


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