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Roundup to be rounded up?

Posted: November 14th, 2023, 9:46 am
by odysseus2000
One of the most common agri chemicals is Roundup, Glyphosate, but there are concerns that it may be causing cancers. In this brief clip we see a supporter arguing 5hat Glyphosphate is not dangerous & can be drunk without harm until he is offered a glass:

https://x.com/steb777/status/1724107239 ... DCpgdbFBxg

As far as I I know Roundup has been banned in some parts of Germany, but not in the UK. Does anyone know if the evidence is beginning to suggest a ban here becomes probable & how this may impact Monsanto?

Regards,

Re: Roundup to be rounded up?

Posted: November 14th, 2023, 10:04 am
by 88V8
Is it a useful garden chemical? If so, it will be banned.
Stock up while you can.

Financial impact? This Fool article of 2016 suggested that there would be an impact, but perhaps did not foresee the impact that has materialised from legal actions.

It doesn't add up to a compelling investment case.

V8

Re: Roundup to be rounded up?

Posted: November 14th, 2023, 10:08 am
by 77ss
odysseus2000 wrote:One of the most common agri chemicals is Roundup, Glyphosate, but there are concerns that it may be causing cancers. In this brief clip we see a supporter arguing 5hat Glyphosphate is not dangerous & can be drunk without harm until he is offered a glass:

https://x.com/steb777/status/1724107239 ... DCpgdbFBxg

As far as I I know Roundup has been banned in some parts of Germany, but not in the UK. Does anyone know if the evidence is beginning to suggest a ban here becomes probable & how this may impact Monsanto?

Regards,


Monsanto no longer exists. Bayer is on the hook - and has been for some time:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53174513

Personally. I use it - but carefully! Good on brambles.

Re: Roundup to be rounded up?

Posted: November 14th, 2023, 10:53 am
by odysseus2000
77ss wrote:
odysseus2000 wrote:One of the most common agri chemicals is Roundup, Glyphosate, but there are concerns that it may be causing cancers. In this brief clip we see a supporter arguing 5hat Glyphosphate is not dangerous & can be drunk without harm until he is offered a glass:

https://x.com/steb777/status/1724107239 ... DCpgdbFBxg

As far as I I know Roundup has been banned in some parts of Germany, but not in the UK. Does anyone know if the evidence is beginning to suggest a ban here becomes probable & how this may impact Monsanto?

Regards,


Monsanto no longer exists. Bayer is on the hook - and has been for some time:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53174513

Personally. I use it - but carefully! Good on brambles.


Thank you.

Interestingly, the global market for Glyphosate is expected to continue to grow, reaching $10.6b by 2030 and now there are many makers of Glyphosate that is perhaps out of its patent:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/global-g ... -L3Af7mNP#

If the product is banned world wide then all of this vanishes, but the impact on Bayer with a turn over of 57b Euro looks negligible:

https://www.bayer.com/media/en-us/bayer ... -earnings/

Most of the farmers I know use Glyphosate routinely to both kill flora before sowing and also to slow down crop with dilute applications or to desiccate crops before harvest.

There are issues over carbon emissions being larger in Germany that has banned Glyphosate where farmers have resorted to ploughing which uses more diesel than glyphosate and surface cultivation, but the amounts of extra co2 don't look significant to me. According to Oxford Economics:

https://theandersonscentre.co.uk/wp-con ... conomy.pdf

a UK ban on Glyphosate would reduce farm incomes by £930m with a tax loss of £193 which is apparently enough to pay 7,000 nurses. Amusing how nurses are trotted out as victims when needed.

This all seems complete baloney as most of the farmers I meet are seething about not being allowed to produce as its more profitable for them to take government money for set aside than it is to grow stuff which is actively discouraged by the politicians in favour of importing food. It would not be so much fun if the UK was again subjected to a blockade as happened in the first and second wars, but the world is so peaceful nowadays!

Regards,